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3/31  8:39pm   In regards to the brush collection, please be sure when stacking your limbs that you stack them with the butt ends towards the street. This makes it easier for the chipping crews to feed them into the chipper. It also makes it safer. Thanks for your help. Highwayman - TB. 3/31  5:45pm   Water water everywhere and nor a drop to drink, Water water everywhere and all the boards did shrink . . . No I don't have any water in my cellar so I consider myself blessed but enough is enough, all I want is a little warm sun on my face and a little warm breeze rustling thru the trees. I will try not to think of the BUGS that all this rain will bring this summer, for now I will be content with the thought that warm weather is just around the corner . . . Hey, who keeps moving the corner??? - JW 3/31  5:45pm   Just wanted to remind people that if you do online shopping, you can earn $ for our schools. If you register with "schoolpop.com" you can access all of the normal online sites (amazon, Barnes and Noble, Lands End, etc) without extra hassle or cost and a percent of the purchase goes back to Norfolk School District. If you haven't already, please consider registering--an easy way to earn $ for our schools. Thanks and stay dry. - WS 3/31  5:40pm   To SF: It response to your question about putting in a sump - there is a web site at www.thathomesite.com where they have forums you can post a question about how to put in a sump. Some of the people that post on the site are professional contractors and other knowledgable people (I will stay away from saying they are all experts). Some give some very good common sense advice and instruction. I'm not sure where your water is coming in from but one thing you should be aware of - once you cut a hole in the floor you create a pathway for more water to come in up from below unless you properly seal the floor and sump area. Rather than a sump you may want to look at drainage solutions on the outside of your house. - AB 3/30  8:20pm   So how is everyone else in town dealing with the water? Or am I the only one lucky enough to have a flooded basement. OK so it is only an 1 inch, but it is still a pain the the you know what! Anyone know anything about cutting concrete and making a sump hole? Why is it that newer houses don't have a sump hole? Do the [want] the water to force the floor up? squish-squish - SF 3/30  1:19pm   I too am going to miss the Norfolk Press. However, I've noticed that the paper has gotten skinnier in the past few weeks, and can understand the financial aspect of the decision. Let's hope that the new publisher makes good on his statement in his letter, and that Norfolk doesn't get ignored. It's unfortunate that the lack of available space in town has created the situation where the Recreation Commission and Norfolk Community Television with the Selectmen over who gets use of the multi-purpose room when the Seniors move to their new Center. These are both services that the town needs, so we aren't talking frills. It points to the larger issue of not having enough available, affordable, meeting and rental space in the town. The Federated Church, and perhaps the other churches, have helped local organizations such as the seniors and the scouts by providing meeting space on a regular basis. Otherwise, this issue may have become apparent sooner. Fifth grade students at Freeman-Centennial School currently participate in a media project involving the resources of Norfolk Community Television. It sounds as though this may be lost as part of the program if the students no longer have access to the equipment, which is currently located directly across from the library. How unfortunate! Let's hope that a solution can be found to this latest space crunch problem that everyone can live with! - CR 3/29  11:08pm   So the Norfolk Press is ceasing publication; the new owners have decided to merge it into the Country Gazette. We'll see what sharing the page with Franklin will do to local coverage. On a brighter note, the snow that completely covered the snowdrop had again melted by this morning. I expect the rain that's forecast will wash away what's left of the snow (which is still pretty thick in places, though slushy). 3/28  12:44am   We have received an on-line version of the Spring Town Meeting Warrant; you may read it here. Be advised that it's rather long, and it lost a some formatting (in particular the tables); I'll see if I can find some time to fix it. 3/27  11:42am   Regarding the collection of brush and storm debris, the official word from Selectman Jack McFeeley is: [T]here will be a townwide cleanup by the Highway Department during the school vacation week starting April 16, 2001. Please note that since April 16, 2001 is a holiday, the cleanup will start on April 17, 2001 and will continue for a full week. Residents are requested to bring their debris to the street at the edge of their property from now until the prior week ending on Saturday, April 14, 2001. We will have chippers and collection trucks picking up everything townwide while people are at work or even away on vacation the collection week of April 16, 2001. However, if it's not at the edge of the road during that week it won't be taken away. Due to the variability of the work, we cannot publish neighborhood schedules for the week. If for some reason some people miss this schedule, we'll make accommodations for them at the transfer station the next week as long as they bring the limbs themselves. 3/27  11:42am   The following was e-mailed to our attention by a friend (who spammed a long list of his aquaintances with it, some friend, huh :-), but it sounds quite interesting, so I've put it up (without his permission, sorry :-): There is a television documentary airing now on PBS that is, as CBS media critic John Leonard put it, a MUST SEE. This is especially true for us in the environmetal business. It's a Bill Moyers production called Trade Secrets and it documents the chemical industry's knowledge of and decades-long cover-up and denial of the health effects of widely used chemcals such as vinyl chloride. I saw it last night and I highly recommend it. Its riveting. It is being replayed on the Boston PBS channels this week. Most of the times that its playing are late at night, so you may want to tape it (its about 1 1/2 hours long). In Boston: chan 44: 2:00 pm Tues; 1:00 am Thurs. chan 2: 1:00 am Weds; 4:30 am Saturday 3/25  7:57pm   I was deceived by the good weather - I thought winter was over. It'll sure look different tomorrow with three inches of new snow on the ground! And, unrelated - the cat up for adoption on the Bulletin Board now has a photo on-line. 3/24  1:01pm   To EB and KC: The golf course is known as the Fore Golf Club, located at the intersection of 115 and Route 1A, next to the JOFRAN building. The developer, Fore Kicks, Inc. out of Holliston, MA is proposing a 9 hole executive course, par 3 holes. In addition a large building is proposed to house an indoor soccer field. Of course there will be offices and other space required for the maintenance equipment. The planners are proposing to use much of the existing topography out there so there will be some challenging holes. The project has passed review by at least one town board and is expected to go through the other boards. The course will be operated by the private business and will also staff it. As for employing Norfolk residents, that is a good question, I don't know. Construction is expected to start as soon as all the approvals are given for the Town Boards. - AB 3/24  10:27am   Thank you and congratulations to the Norfolk Recreation Department on a successful 5th and 6th Grade Social last night! From all accounts it was a big hit. My son and his friends had a terrific time. Thank you all for working so hard to make this a success. - JD 3/24  10:25am   I just saw the post that KC put up about the golf course. Do you have more details? Will this be a 18 hole course? Where and when is it being built? Any info would be great! - EB 3/23  12:21pm   Drove by the Orchard St. (Fruit St., in Medfield) bridge over the Charles River yesterday, and the water was less than a foot from the underside of the bridge. I checked today, and there is no airspace left. The current is swift, and the fields and woods on both sides are inundated. Update: 3/23  11:45pm   I added the photos, and changed the banner picture to a tiled panorama of the river by the Orchard St. bridge. I also added a snap I took a few days back of the kind of storm damage that is being discussed (we have a number of out-of-state readers who would not have seen the debris first hand). On a cheerier note, our first spring flower is ready to bloom - a little snowdrop was fully grown by the time the snow melted around it . . . and it opened! And finally, if you like drives in the country and if you get the chance, the stretch along Fruit St. from Cleveland St. to the town line is incredibly rustic and very pretty. 3/22  8:52pm   Hmmmm. You do mention the miserable weather we had and are having this past winter and this early spring. I wonder if the town of Norfolk Highway Dept. has been busy nearly round the clock keeping up with the snow, ice, and now flooding??? So feel free to pick up any broken branches you find, call the police dept. for a burning permit and go to it . . . Any and all help will be appreciated, I'm sure. - JW [ I don't think WD meant any offense, it sounded like a reasonable question. Many of us, especially those who moved here from cities, don't know when burning is allowed or what is involved in getting a burning permit - Wm. ] Update: 3/23  9:40pm   A reader sent in the specifics: To get a burning permit, one has to fill out a form at the Police & Fire Station, then, on the days when you wish to burn brush, call the Fire Station at 528-3207, the non-emergency number, after 10 AM and you will be given permission over the phone if burning is allowed on that day. Open burning season begins on Jan 15, 2001 and will continue through May 1, 2001 under very strict conditions which are listed on the Burning Permit. Thank you! 3/22  12:54pm   Happy Birthday, girl! There are 20 candles on your cake today. A whole generation has gone by since we first met. This might not be so unusual, except that you are my trusted companion, my cat! We've lived in two different countries, three states, and many types of homes over the years, big and small, new to 200 years old. You adopted Frisky, your cat companion for nearly 13 years, whom we still miss. You sniffed the man I was dating when you first met him, but quickly grew to like him, so we got married. You even accepted our two sons as they joined the family, even though the little one bugs you sometimes! We learned to give you shots when you developed diabetes at 15. You've done well to live with it and take the shots every day. You have a wonderful, gentle nature, and a great, loud, motor. I feel lucky to have had you in my life for so long. I love you, Toby, and wish you many more purrfect days!!! - CR 3/22  12:52pm   What a mess the streets of Norfolk are in. Does anyone know who is responsible for cleaning up the broken branches that were caused by the miserable winter we have had? Can we burn them at the appropriate time, with a permit? If anyone knows any answers, I would appreciate it. Thanks. - WD 3/22  10:34am   Is it true that if you put out your yard debris (broken branches etc.) the town is going to come by and pick it up? If so, how will you know when they'll be in your neighborhood? It's a great idea since so much tree damage was done by the snowstorms. - PR 3/20  10:19pm   Regarding your post about using the Grange Hall - contact either Marie Simpson, Betty Ray, Stan Collins or Norma Shruhan. These people are all Norfolk residents and are listed in the phone book. Hope this helps. - ME 3/20  8:20am   Who does one contact about holding an event at the Norfolk Grange? Is there a membership or is it owned by the town or what? - DAF 3/20  8:20am   Happy Vernal Equinox! Spring officially begins today. From now until the Equinox in September, the days will again be longer than the nights, which is supposed to eventually melt all the snow and cause the trees to sprout green leaves - I'll believe it when I see it. 3/18  9:58pm   I spent Sunday studying the recall petition warrant articles. The two are actually very similar, with only three substantial points of divergence: Voter-determined vs. legislated acceptable reasons for having a recall petition 15% vs. 25% of elegible voters required to sign the petition to hold a recall election No vs. 25% minimum voter turnout required for the recall election results to be valid Given a typical voter participation of 30% (1999 town election), the overall effect of the differences is to make successful recalls much more difficult using the second, ``clearly stated reasons'' language. Those of you who wish to familiarize yourselves with the proposals can read the two submitted articles side-by-side, with my annotations, on this page. - Wm. 3/15  3:05pm   I just read the article in the Norfolk Post regarding the golf course. I have a couple of questions: Is there going to be a membership to this golf course or can anyone come to it? The $12.00 that is going to cost for a round of golf, if you have a membership to the club do you have to pay that $12.00? Also, the [jobs] that are going to [be created] - will they offer [them] to Norfolk residents first? Is there going to be a screen up on the street side so the balls will not break windows or damage cars? About how much money will the town make on having this golf course in Norfolk? And who is going to be responsible for keeping this property up? Will the town be responsible for any of the maintenance - example: plowing and moving of the lawns etc. [R]egardig the snow on the top of cars: Yes, there is a law that says that you have to clean off your vehicle before going on the roads because of that danger. If I am incorrect the NPD can correct me. I know that the state police make truckers clean off the top of their trucks before they go back on the roads. Again, a thanks to the Highway Dept for doing a great job even without me (hi SW!) - KC 3/18  10:12pm   Speaking of the recall petitions, it was time to move them to their own page. New posts on the topic will still show up here in Notes, and will be migrated as volume dicates. 3/18  9:27am   A quick clarification. I am not a supporter of the original petition -- ie. I did not sign it. In fact, I've only heard descriptions of the two petitions and seen the selectmen's discussions on the two competing warrant articles. I'm hoping to see both soon so I can educate myself more on the specifics. At a high level I think: 1) giving citizen's the right to recall elected officials is a positive thing, and 2) any limitations on the scope of recalls should be objectively judgeable, and have a defendable purpose. The limitations Mr. Chipman seeks to place on our ability to remove errant elected officials do not, in my opinion meet the standard of being objectively judgeable (who judges "lack of fitness?"). It also doesn't seem to stem from a purpose I find defendable. As I understand it from PA's posts and from statements made at the Board of Selectmen's meetings on this topic, the purpose of Mr. Chipman's warrant article is to limit the exposure that elected officials have to being removed from office if the majority of the voters want that person removed. That doesn't sound to me like a goal that strengthens accountability or democracy in this town. A question I have about the first warrant article is will the recall be an expression of the majority will of the voters? I don't know enough about the specifics of the first one to know if it provides for this. If not, it needs modification, but not a limiting of the reasons for removal. I must apologize for my gaffe: calling the Zoning Bylaw Study Committee the Zoning Board of Appeals. That said, I stand by the assertion. It seemed obvious to this outsider that the conflict of interest laws were darn close to violated. I'm no lawyer, but if the law prohibits BOH members from "taking any type of official action that could create an appearance of impropriety, or acting in a manner which could cause an impartial observer to believe that your actions are tainted with bias or favoritism," then this situation (removing an appointee for no clearly stated reason and inserting a running mate of one of the board members) seemed to me to be legally dubious. Like I said though -- I'm not a lawyer. Town government is not like the federal government so we shouldn't look to the actions of the President for guidance. One thought: we can impeach a president. And we all know how useful the specificty of the grounds for impeachment ("high Crimes and Misdemeanors") proved to be. :-) Wouldn't it have been nice if the grounds for removal were simply that the majority of voters wanted him removed (not sure how that would have turned out, but it would have saved us a lot of time). And as for how well the BOH is working together these past few months: that's swell if everyone agrees that this is the case. I haven't heard anything about the BOH since the abovementioned case, so that must be a good sign. But, it doesn't change the facts of the situation I refer to. Another interpretation of the silence on the BOH is that Mr. Gilbert has decided that fighting the whims of the other two members is fruitless. - DAF 3/18  12:41am   This recall stuff is quite fascinating [ . . . ]. I have to admit though, that I have trouble believing (and this is my own opinion) in or with PA's credibility on the intent of the "second" recall petition. Here's why . . . the 3/12 post PA alerted the readers of this board to "If anyone saw Globe West yesterday, they has an article about a recall petition that is headed for Town Meeting". And then PA goes on to write "There is also another petition that has clearly defined language, which would be the lesser of two evils. Hopefully we will not be subjected to either one". A post on 3/14 PA states, "I appreciate you letting me post my thoughts and opinions on the recall petition subject over the past couple of days, as it is something I feel very strongly about. Yesterday you referenced the second petition that Peter S. Chipman initiated. That is the petition I signed, and was subsequently asked to appear in front of our selectmen to discuss." I find this statement fascinating where two days before PA was hoping that "we will not be subjected to either one" yet presents the appearance that he or she now fully understands the language and signs the petition (but he said he was not a lawyer 3/14 post again) within two days and has become an expert on the petition enough so to appear in front of the selectmen!!?? Sorry, but I don't buy this . . . . there seems to be conflict here where someone posing as a well meaning citizen has appearance of knowing or having the intimate working knowledge and actual or underlying or hidden intent of the "second" recall petition. With all the above said, I pose two situations to PA (and would appreciate a comment from DAF) related to a recall. As for conflicts of interest as presented in the DAF post, the Conflict of Interest Laws are specific, but vague enough where a financial gain is one of many criteria that could be a conflict of interest. What about avoiding a fine or enforcement? If an elected official is on a board and knowingly stalls, delays, or impedes enforcement by the board on which this person sits is this a conflict of interest? No one is being hurt financially or physically, but the rest of the public is required to abide by the laws? My second question is if an elected official outright portrays himself as something else during the campaign period and then once elected goes off and does what ever he or she wants to do. Is this grounds for a recall under the state statutes or legal action? Or is this a matter that should be turned over to the Attorney General's Office? I do have a comment regarding the post by "concerned citizen" about town employees being trained in CPR. It seems that for Selectman McFeeley to have to respond to a question that is on this board raises a few points that leave me wondering. According to "concerned citizen" the request was raised over one and one half years ago, why does it take this sort of post for something to be done. In my own opinion, the responsibility falls on the board of selectmen, not the fire department. A request that goes unanswered over one year ago is unacceptable. For Selectman McFeely to dump it back on the "concerned citizen" and say "When an incorrect statement is made by someone, it is often difficult to completely erase it from our memory. We have to be careful about what we say. Otherwise, our credibility suffers." Sorry, but in my opinion, "the credibility" went out the window with the lack of action by the selectmen over a year ago. Now I know that someone will jump all over me and say why don't you get involved? I have and did, in the past, but I value my sanity more than having to deal some of the egos elected in this town. Thanks for the soapbox. - AW 3/18  12:29am   To DAF: It's great to finally hear from a supporter of the initial recall petition!! The second recall petition was written using language from existing, approved recall petitions adopted from other towns, and which were initially approved from the AG's office, (and for good reason.)   [ Webmaster's note: we were informed that the petitions are both based on the state-recommented template text, and both versions have been adopted in various communities across the state - Wm. ] As far as appointees being removed, we just saw all of Clinton's appointees make way for Bush's appointees [ . . . ]. When new people come along, new appointees come along. Your facts are not entirely correct, though. The Board of Health did not appoint someone to the ZBA, they appointed someone to the Zoning-By-Law Study Committee, and to the Animal Advisory's Agent spot. Totally different positions. As far as the Board of Health, since John Hurley has come along, this board has started conducting more meetings (twice monthly now, as opposed to once a month) and all members and agents seem to work together quite well. The in-fighting has been replaced by what appears to be a cohesive unit, and one that has even taken their show on the road, visiting local establishments to check on smoking regs being followed, etc. This board has never been better, for they now all work together. Thanks for your opinion! - PA 3/17  12:43pm   Happy St. Patrick's Day! 3/16  11:49pm   We received some inquiries about the appropriateness of the ``inflammatory language'' of DAF's post, especially in light of us having toned down the vehemence of some messages in the past, and whether this indicates a loss of objectivity on our part. DAF's entire point was that ``dishonesty'' is subjective, and a poor criterion to incorporate into law. Using an example, and clearly marked as such, he stated that in his opinion the explanations offered by the Board of Health as to their actions do not hold water. Yes, it was a personal opinion, but it was clearly marked as such, it was an integral and inseparable component of the comment, it was on-topic, it was about public figures in their official elected capacity, it was not rude nor offensive, and in context, was perfectly acceptable. For a broad overview of how we determine what is fit content, please see our Posting Guidelines page.  - Wm. [ Update: we were forwarded the actual language used in the article, which lists ``[ . . . ] the following reasons: lack of fitness; neglect of duties; corruption; misfeasance or violation of oath. Exercising discretion in voting or acting on matters before such office holder shall not constitute a reason for recall.'' - Wm. ] 3/16  9:34am   I have to agree with Wm. The recall petition authored by Mr. Chipman adds less than nothing by requiring that elected officials can only be removed for "explicit actions indicating corrupt and dishonest behavior."  Those terms are completely subjective. What is "dishonest" behavior? In my view, when the Board of Health removed a long-standing, knowledgeable appointee to the Zoning Board of Appeals and placed one of the chairman's friends and Mr. Hurley's political ally in the spot, the reasons they gave were obviously dishonest. Others may see that differently. So, how do we judge whether or not this is grounds for a recall petition? And who judges? State law allows for the removal of "corrupt" officials already. Read Mass General Laws section 268A. In the case of the BOH, for instance, read this from the State Ethics Commission. So recalls aren't for legally provable removal. Recalls are for: Strengthening popular control of government, Allowing voters to correct electoral systems failures which are the product of a long ballot or the plurality election rule, Reducing voter alienation, Educating the electorate, Encourages votes to approve constitutional and charter amendments lengthening the term of office of elected officers. This last point is one that I'd like to underline. Unlike some folks in town, I think having a knowledgeable resident in town government for a longer term is a positive thing. There is a depth and breadth of knowledge that comes with serving for a long time that cannot be duplicated when there is a switchout every couple of years. Look at your business. Why do you try to keep your best people? That said, if people are going to get entrenched in elected positions, we need a method for removing them mid-term in extreme cases where the elected official is no longer representing the will of the the townspeople as a whole. Lastly, I find it odd that people like Mr. Chipman, who run on the platform that town government needs to be more accountable to "the people" are now seeking to put limitations on their own accountability to their constituents. This is not just some zany idea by a lone crank out to get Mr. Chipman. Over half of the US States (and hundreds of municipalities) have constitutional or statutory provisions for the recall of elected officers.  - DAF 3/15  3:05pm   I just read the article in the Norfolk Post regarding the golf course. I have a couple of questions: Is there going to be a membership to this golf course or can anyone come to it? The $12.00 that is going to cost for a round of golf, if you have a membership to the club do you have to pay that $12.00? Also, the [jobs] that are going to [be created] - will they offer [them] to Norfolk residents first? Is there going to be a screen up on the street side so the balls will not break windows or damage cars? About how much money will the town make on having this golf course in Norfolk? And who is going to be responsible for keeping this property up? Will the town be responsible for any of the maintenance - example: plowing and moving of the lawns etc. [R]egardig the snow on the top of cars: Yes, there is a law that says that you have to clean off your vehicle before going on the roads because of that danger. If I am incorrect the NPD can correct me. I know that the state police make truckers clean off the top of their trucks before they go back on the roads. Again, a thanks to the Highway Dept for doing a great job even without me (hi SW!) - KC 3/14  1:49pm   With yesterday's closing of the nomination period for the May 1 election, there are three contested races: Joyce Terrio and Peter Chipman for one seat on the Board of Selectmen; John Lavin and John Hurley for one seat on the Board of Health; and Todd Chisholm, Craig Koch, and David Pimental for two seats on the Recreation Commission. A complete list of the open seats and candidates is attached. Position Seats Term Candidates Selectman One Three Years Joyce Terrio (incumbent) Peter Chipman (current BOH) Board of Health One Three Years John Hurley (incumbent) John Lavin Recreation Commission Two Three Years Todd Chisholm Craig Koch David Pimental Moderator One One Year Frank Gross Board of Assessors One Three Years Donna Putt One One Year  Patricia Salamone Library Trustee One Three Years Kenneth Nelson Water Commissioner One Three Years J. Kennedy Planning Board Two Three Years Francis Fitzpatrick Arthur Spruch Housing Authority One Five Years Paul DuBois Norfolk School Committee One Three Years Maureen Howard Constable  Two  Three Years J.D. Janes Robert Smith According to the Town Clerk's Office, if a winning candidate currently holds another elected position, they may choose to either serve on both boards or resign from their current position.  In the case of the latter, their board and the board of selectmen would be responsible for appointing someone to fill the rest of their term. 3/14  10:52am   To the Wm., I appreciate you letting me post my thoughts and opinions on the recall petition subject over the past couple of days, as it is something I feel very strongly about. Yesterday you referenced the second petition that Peter S. Chipman initiated. That is the petition I signed, and was subsequently asked to appear in front of our selectmen to discuss. In your post today, you ask: "Should elected officials have a guarantee to a full term in office?" As I recall, the petition I signed had clearly defined language, indicating that an official may be removed from office for explicit actions indicating corrupt and dishonest behavior. The original petition had no such language whatsoever. Today in your post you asked: "What recourse can voters have?" Again, in the petition I signed there is clearly defined language stating what constitutes starting a recall election. That is not the case with the original petition. The initial recall petition would do nothing but stifle a system that is supposed to be based on democracy, and I'm fearful that if it goes forth, people will be discouraged from serving their town. Why bother expending valuable time and energy (and possibly money) to win an election when you can be removed for no clearly delineated reason? Again, I appreciate you letting me voice my opinions. I don't know why we haven't heard from supporters of the initial petition, for they were not represented in Globe West on Sunday, but they certainly deserve to have their opinion heard as well. - PA [ In principle an un-election is just as democratic as an election, since both simply carry out the will of the electorate. Losing a recall election is little different from losing the election proper; why bother with running at all if there is any chance of losing? What you are suggesting *is* a limited guarantee; it would become illegal to remove someone from office for reasons other than one of the listed offenses. My question is whether it is prudent of the voters to hand out such guarantees - Wm. ] To Wm: As I've stated all along, if we have to be subjected to recall petitions, they need to have some clearly defined language, otherwise Chairman X of the XYZ Board may be subject to a recall because he didn't give someone a variance, or he appointed someone to one committee and left someone else out. I'm no lawyer, but if the initial petition goes through, and someone who has been elected by the populace gets broomed for no serious infraction, there will be a lawsuit. [I]t would be nice for the author(s) of the initial petition to speak out. - PA [ Yes, and they could be subject to recall because of how they dress or how they conduct themselves on the televised meetings, or even because they changed the color of their tie, but none of these are very likely either. Just like with at-will hires in the workforce, if the post does not come with an expectation of permanence, there would be no cause for complaint about dismissal. If we trust the voters to make the right decision when electing someone, why not trust them to make the right decision about removing them? - Wm. ] 3/13  8:53pm   Re: Recall Petitions: Sorry for all the parenthetical comments, but I'm quite interested in the principle of this issue, namely - how much control should voters have over their elected officials? Would an ``un-election'' be improper, (not illegal, mind you, but improper; the two are distinct) when an election itself is merely voter-granted empowerment? How would an un-election be different from a vote of confidence, which is a rather common occurrence in governance all around the world? Should elected officials have a guarantee to a full term in office? Should such protection be extended to non-elected public servants? How much autonomy ought an election delegate, and should it sanction deceit? What recourse can voters have (or should they have any) if an elected official eg. breaks a campaign promise (and violates one of the basic voter assumptions that got them elected in the first place)? What if we didn't think of it as a recall, but as a reaffirmation of continued trust (or lack thereof)? I guess I see this issue as one of voter rights. An established recall procedure would give disgruntled voters a recourse, and may well lead to less apathy and increased voter involvement. By limiting the methods and reasons by which officials are ultimately held accountable, I don't see how we, the voters benefit. A recall procedure that narrowly curtails the causes for which an elected person may be removed from office explicitly permits and protects all other transgressions, and is worse than no procedure at all. - Wm. 3/13  2:37pm   To VR, PA, etc.: I think the more specific language is, the better. Far too many elected and appointed officials hide behind shadowy language. As far as I can see, the direct approach that has been going on for the last 2 - 3 years is a positive thing for the town. No one has "had to know someone" to get things done. Is it realisitic to keep the same people in the same positions for 20+ years? No successful corporation would do that; why should we? It's high time that people became involved in the election process instead of being ambivilent until an elected official does or says something that someone doesn't like. Recalling a person without reason, after they cared enough to take a stand and tried to make it work, sounds like a schoolyard bully making sure everything is done their way. - JD 3/13  11:56am   To PA: It's not that the candidates aren't being asked to state their positions, it's more that the positions aired before the elections tend to consist of generalities. Typically *only* those already inside town politics know enough to ask the pointed questions about upcoming issues that would be really useful in making an informed decision. For the rest of us, it's not until a specific situation comes along, perhaps several months into someone's term, that we have a chance to understand the various implications for the town, currently with no available remedy. But speaking of being well-informed, I'd be interested in learning more about the two petitions . . . perhaps their supporters could post to this board? - VR 3/13  11:07am   To VR: The time to learn when you can choose someone to better represent you is BEFORE the election, not after it. No one in Norfolk should ever state that they didn't know the issues, candidates, platforms, etc. because the information is out there. Between local papers covering the races, and the Candidates Night (which is aired several times by NCTV) any questions voters may have should be answered prior to going into the polls. If candidates aren't being asked to state their positions, that's not their fault, it's ours! As far as having a chance to recall an official, there is a second petition that came out in light of the original one that actually contains language specifying what constitutes offenses that would be worthy of a recall movement.- PA [ Gee, maybe I'm a cynic, but I read it as the second petition was out there solely to blunt the momentum behind the first; see the quotes to that effect in the Globe article. - Wm. ] 3/13  9:36am   I'm not associated in any way with the recall petition, but in my view, establishing a recall process is not automatically negative. All it does is provide a mechanism for voters to either endorse or recall an elected town official. In our years in town, I've realized that candidates rarely have to state their position on key issues, usually because few people know enough to ask the right questions *before* the election. So residents typically cast their votes with very little information regarding the candidates' positions, and even less understanding of the boards and their responsibilities. Once a situation arises in which voters realize that an elected official supports a position that is harmful to their or the town's interests, shouldn't they have a chance to recall that official and replace him/her with someone who better represents them? - VR 3/12  11:10pm   If anyone saw Globe West yesterday, they had an article about a recall petition that is headed for Town Meeting. This petition would allow only 200 signatures to get the ball rolling to oust local politicians who may have campaigned long and hard and received four to five times that many votes. There was no clear language in this petition stating what would constitute an offense that could cause elected politicians to be removed. If this goes forth to town meeting, do not support it, for it could spell the end of people volunteering their precious time and expertise (why would people bother getting involved if they could be removed for no reason?) There is also another petition that has clearly defined language, which would be the lesser of two evils. Hopefully we will not be subjected to either one. - PA [ What about the volunteers in appointed positions? - Wm. ] 3/12  8:40am   NS sent in a follow-up post surveying transfer station fees in nearby towns. In summary, Medfield is free, Franklin is $2.20 per bag, Medway has curbside pickup for $50 + $1.50 per bag. The specific details are available on a separate page. 3/10  2:55pm   Ah the good ole days, this is a picture of Main St. during the blizzard of '78. - J.W. 3/9  4:28pm   Does anyone know a good physical therapist in the area? I am having knee surgery on Tuesday, and was looking for someone local. Thanks - DN 3/9  1:13pm   I just learned that BFI will not be sending trucks to town this week. They said that this was due to the state of emergency for two days. So, for all that have their trash curbside, and use BFI, might as well bring it in before the next storm! I'm a little peeved . . . I try to be a good recycler, now everything is wet, etc. and we have to double-lug all the stuff back. Those who use the dump can at least control when they get rid of their garbage. So . . . even with a hauler things aren't always that great! - CR 3/8  11:35pm   I plow for the town and thought I'd share some of the scenes we see during the storms. These are from the so called Blizzard of the Century. - S.W. [ 3/9 8:43am More snow today! Afternoon commute is expected to be bad - Wm. ] 3/8  10:57pm   Yes, we did have a pharmacy here til a few years ago but like you said, it couldn't compete with the larger chains. I also hate the hour long wait at these larger chains, ahem (CVS) and have recently changed to Brooks Pharmacy in Franklin - no lines, nice folks, and a ten minute wait from drop off to pick up . . . Whoops probably should have kept that to myself . . . Now you'll all crowd me out up there . . . - J.W. [ We second that recommendation - we switched to Brooks when CVS tripled the price of the prescription medication for our dog (no particular reason; we asked - just what the market will bear), and have never regretted it - Wm. ] 3/8  7:38pm   At the top of my wish list is for a pharmacy to be located in this town. It is no fun to find out at dinner time (in another town) that your child has strep, and to know that the wait at the pharmacy, this one CVS in Walpole, is usually an hour. So back home we go, only to have to pack the kids back up and have to do the 20 minute each way ride again in the dark when everyone is tired. I'm sure that I'm not the only parent that has experienced this. And what about the elderly? I can get by without other stuff being located here, but this to me is a necessity. I understand that there was a pharmacy here until about four years ago, but that it could no longer compete with the chains. How sad for us! What is it going to take to get a pharmacy back in this town? - CR 3/8  12:48pm   A rant: Are people too lazy today to take snow off of their vehicles? It infuriates me when I'm behind someone in a truck/SUV/minivan and huge, frozen pieces of snow are coming my way at 60mph. There ought to be a law against it! - PA [ I've had this happen to me, and I too find it upsetting. In addition, I worry about the panic reaction of the other drivers around me - Wm. ] 3/8  12:42pm   To RP: As far as WDIS, [ . . . ] I am not affiliated with the station, but I've read about the changes. Years ago I worked for Tom Star, who founded the Talk America Radio Network, which now provides programming for WDIS. It would be great if the station found a host to do a locally oriented show dealing with town issues/politics/etc. - PA 3/8  12:40pm   I know Jack McFeeley is a very smart gentleman, but his math is off. The square footage in a football field is 300feet times 150feet or 45,000 square feet. Twenty-four thousand sqft therefore is not bigger than a football field. In fact 24,000sgft is not so very big for a fire station. - P.G. 3/8  9:13am   [R]egarding NCTV goes to the BIG DIG - we had a great time with the Big Dig show. We're also glad that so many folks have seen it and gotten something out of it. There are many, many other great stories that could be featured at NCTV if we could get more folks interested in stretching their imaginations and adding to their talents by becoming producers themselves of shows like the BIG DIG. Would you like to do a show on the lack of business in town, the making of the Town Meeting, MCAS, do you have a writing talent, etc. We here at NCTV are here to show you how to do these kinds of programs, but the content of the program is entirely up to your imagination. Give us a call at 520-0407 and make a time to come in and talk about your ideas. - Paul Guertin, Station Manager. 3/7  10:34pm   NCTV goes to the big dig - a big Thanks to the people who put this show on. (I'm sorry to say I forget their names posted at the end of the show.) I do know its the same guy who does the great interviews with most of the Town Boards. I have watched it a few times and found it to be very informative. Thanks again. - NS 3/7  10:28pm   Hi, I have a few names of companies that offer curbside trash pickup and was looking for some more suggestions as to who offers curbside pickup in Norfolk. With the board of Selectmen just approving an increase of the trash bag stickers from $1.75 to $1.90 PLUS the $40 sticker fee, this is getting really expensive. I don't mind paying but if I am paying I would like the convenience of not having to use expensive plastic bags and just use green Rubbermaid waste containers like most people own and most other towns use., i.e.. Medfield, Medway, Franklin (to name a few). How many people have small plastic bags for their kitchen waste, when that gets full put it into a larger green plastic bag? Talk about waste. Plastic biodegrades in how many years???? Medfield lets you throw trash in any type of container you have. I plan on doing a surrounding town survey for comparison (NOT Sudbury as was presented at Selectman's meeting) to see where we stand for rates. I suspect we are very high. But in the meantime if I'm paying through the nose I'm going to hire someone to lug my trash, hence the first sentence in my rant. It will most likely not cost me any more PLUS I'll save my time and not have to worry about running out of bag stickers. This seems to be the trend because Saturday mornings at Main Street Hardware tells the whole picture. People are mad and getting out. - NS 3/7  9:51pm   This snow may hard on the trees, but it is incredibly pretty. Two of our trees had branches broken off by the frozen-on snow, but on my way home, I was marveling at the white landscape - white bushes, white roads, white treetrunks, and white branches bent over double laden with white snow. I also wish to thank the neighbors behind our house for noticing that our street lost power. Two houses had their flood lights turned on in the evening, helping us see. 3/7  5:41pm   To "PA" - Thanks for the update on our "little radio station on the hill". You seem be familiar with their operation. Are you affiliated with the station? - RP 3/7  4:05pm   Can anyone tell me how to get advance tickets for the March 24 Harlem Wizards game at King Philip High? I ordered tickets using the form sent home from school, but now I need more tickets because I'll have houseguests that weekend. The flyer from school doesn't say who's sponsoring the event or where you can get additional tickets. Help! - HQ [ 3/13  8:04pm   Update: additional tickets are available through the Freeman Centennial school office, or through NCL. The NCL contacts listed in their newsletter Helen M. at 528-5968 or Lynn J. at 520-4585. - Wm. ] 3/7  10:12am   It feels like Monday again - short week! Spent part of the Snow Holiday yesterday shoveling, and part puttering, cleaning up the computer room. We lost power early afternoon, so could not work either on the stuff I brought home or the web page. 3/7  10:10am   I want to take this opportunity to say "JOB WELL DONE" to the Norfolk Highway Dept. You were out early and stayed out til the job was done. I am one citizen proud of all of you. - J.W. 3/6  1:16pm   Why not help out the NFD and if you live near a fire hydrant, why not shovel it out. It's for your safety too! - PR 3/6  11:50am   To RP: WDIS recently had a change in their programming. They are now carrying syndicated talk from the Las Vegas based Talk America Network. As far as the signal, it's only 1000 watts during the day, so as you get farther from town, the station fades. Talk America is also going to use the station as their Eastern Regional offices. - PA 3/5  8:12pm   A note to Concerned Citizen - You mentioned in your last posting that, "I have not received a response from the fire chief or board of selectmen." You were referring to your suggestions about employees being given CPR training. As a rule, we prefer not to comment on postings to this bulletin board and I will not change that position with a reply on that subject. We feel that this bulletin board is a tremendous asset to Norfolk and the Board of Selectmen does not want to influence the exchanges. If we were to comment on a posting in some circumstances, our lack of a comment in other situations could be construed as a tacit agreement. Please call me at home and I would be glad to discuss your proposal. I do, however, feel compelled to comment on your remark that, "I know that the fire department is not too busy . . ." Although your March 5 posting retracts this comment and assures us that we have "one of the best departments in the surrounding towns," a spurious comment often is hard to forget. We do, indeed, have an outstanding Fire Department. Fighting fires and responding to other life threatening emergencies is only part of their job. When an incorrect statement is made by someone, it is often difficult to completely erase it from our memory. We have to be careful about what we say. Otherwise, our credibility suffers. Another case in point is your comment that the Fire Chief or Board of Selectmen are "busy trying to justify the new oversized fire department building - 33 thousand square feet." When the Fire Chief presented a draft proposal to the Board of Selectmen several months ago the proposed plan was for a station comprising about 24 thousand square feet. I immediately rejected the proposal. I told them that it was not only bigger than a football field; it was almost as big as the football field and the green area that surrounded the playing surface. Chief Kelley and the architect heard the message and came back several weeks later with a scaled down proposal for a 17 thousand square foot fire station. While I personally believe this could be reduced further, it hardly demonstrates a conspiracy of the type that you describe. This is quite the contrary. The Fire Chief and the Board of Selectmen are looking for opportunities to reduce the scope of the project. I do appreciate your comments and would like to work together to improve Norfolk and the quality of life our town. Jack McFeeley Selectman 3/5  7:11pm   Does anyone listen to our local radio station? There's an article about WDIS-1170 AM in the March 5 edition of The Sun Chronicle regarding their new programming lineup. Ironically, on the same day as the article, the station was off the air. Of the few times, I've tuned in, the signal was quite weak and I couldn't hear the station once I left town. That's unfortunate because a local radio station which broadcasts town news, sporting events, public service announcements etc. can be a great resource to Norfolk and the surrounding area. Let's hope they can make it work - both technically and fiscally. - RP 3/5  7:09pm   To the Concerned Citizen: [ . . . ] rather than taxing our already strapped fire department, let's find another source of tutelage for the departments in town. This sounds like a health issue, so why not get the board of health involved? They are very proactive now in going around town getting things done. Sincerely, Concerned Citizen #3 - PA 3/5  8:53am   This is a response to PP: I have no grudge against the fire department, we have one of the best departments in the surrounding towns. My only concern is the safety of the other employees in the town. With the department that we have now it would only take 1 to 2 hours a week for the EMT to teach this class. I personally know we do more than just put out fires; we have great and outstanding EMT's. There is no reason this department can't donate one to two hours a week to teach the departments CPR. I have worked for the town and lived here a long time, and I know that they can spare a couple of hours a week of time to teach this class. As of yet, I have not received a response from the fire chief or board of selectmen. I know that they are tied up with the new budget coming up and are busy trying to justify the new oversized fire department building - 33 thousand square feet, which is bigger than the highway department; maybe the people should go look at the highway department to see if we need a [fire] department bigger than 33 thousand square feet. I know we need more room, but was the fire department building built so that they can build up and have more room for the trucks - [Concerned Citizen]. 3/5  00:04am   JD, and others who question the need of school expansion . . . PLEASE . . . as a member of the School Building Needs Task Force (SBNTF) I know we are constantly looking for additional members from the community. The SBNTF is required by the state DOE to do this needs assessment prior to any building or renovation. Instead of guessing at the legitimacy of the School's claims please become part of the process. Contact the superintendent's office for the next meeting, we'll welcome your input. - PC 3/4  11:18pm   I also disagree with the comments by JD about our schools. With regards to the art room being used by a part-time art teacher, I believe that she is there for approximately 75% of the day -- hardly part time! My children are now older than 2nd grade so they are not directly affected by how the HOD art room is used, but I can tell you that they have had to endure "art on the cart" in both schools in years past, and the quality of the program suffers considerably when the art teacher (or music teacher, for that matter) has to shlep equipment from room to room. As for the computers being moved out of the computer room and into each classroom to free up space, I understand that the computers in the "lab" are all networked to one another so that the computer teacher can teach a group lesson by controlling her own screen; this standard teaching method would most likely be impossible to do in the classroom. Also, when a classroom comes to visit the computer room, there is one computer station for each child, and if we were to dispurse those computers into the classrooms, it would amount to only one extra computer in each classroom and MANY children huddled around each computer screen - hardly a quality learning experience for such an important skill. I'm also surprised that JD apparently isn't aware that the SACC room at the HOD is being used full time - there are morning and afternoon kindergarten programs in that classroom, and it's quite an important program to offer as more and more Norfolk residents need good quality programming for their children during the day (both during and before and after school). My children have been involved in the SACC program for years, and it's a blessing to those of us whose jobs require some flexibility of day care arrangements. Finally, I'm not sure if it would be desirable for the third grade to be housed in HOD, given our current two-school elementary system in Norfolk; my children did not have any difficulty transitioning into third grade at the "big school" and actually liked not being with the younger kids. Anyway, even if we did put classrooms in the HOD computer room, the SACC room, the art room, doubled up the kindergartens, and the music room (why not!?!), there wouldn't be enough room to bring over the third grade, because there are currently eight third grade classes there (probably nine for next year). And that plan doesn't take into account any growth in the current K-1-2 classes. So let's stop insinuating that the schools are trying to "pull one over" on us when they say that they are close to capacity again. - JE 3/4  3:09am   Some things can happen that make us completely re-examine our lives. We start to feel guilty about our own happiness, and the happy chatter around the dinner table stuns us with the complete unfairness of it all, and when a light left on overnight in a back room changes from a child's comfort into a beacon of despair, we rage powerless against the Universe. We become a little smaller, a little less confident, a little more uncertain, and perhaps we'll walk a little slower, and return home a little sooner, and hug our own children a little tighter. 3/3  5:55pm   I disagree with the comments regarding our schools. With regards to the two kindergarten teachers, each have their own plans and methods of teaching and the arrangements of their classrooms reflect that. Where do you propose the SAC children go? Is there a separate room for the kindergarten child care program? Putting the art and music teachers back into carts is only going to hurt the curriculum of what they are teaching. And, for heavens sake, have you been over to the KP High School lately? Would YOU want to spend 6+ hours a day there? Unless there was extensive renovation, thanks but no thanks. Let's put our energies into developing a tax base not completely dependent on residential homes. Let's do the best for our kids. - AL 3/3  5:51pm   Interesting comments! I believe that there is also a room devoted to SACC at the Freeman Centennial School that is only used for part of the day. I also noticed alot of "stuff" around the school, such as what looked to be surplus or old computers, keyboards, and desks and chairs. Perhaps a general housecleaning is in order. If so, it would free up precious storage space in that school. These are good ideas . . . let's keep sharing. In reference to the King Philip High School, I'm not sure how Mr. Perron has arrived at the conclusion that he represents a significant portion of the town in wanting to see the present King Philip High School preserved. The cost analysis of renovating this school vs. building a new High School has already been completed. With the 68 percent grandfathered reimbursement from the state, building a new school comes out the clear financial winner. Is it possible to renovate an older school? Certainly! Take a look at the Freeman School, built in 1950, and currently being used for classrooms for our 3rd and some 4th grades, after school programs, and gym. But note also that the building has received good maintenance throughout the years, and some upgrades for new systems, such as new windows, a new boiler, and some new flooring. Unfortunately, not much of this type of maintenance has been done at King Philip High School, which brings us to where we are today. The time for procrastination, delaying, and do-nothing has come and past. I have a child in the 4th grade who, I'm hoping, will benefit, along with his 140 or so peers, from the decisions we make this spring. Yes, there may be portable classrooms and construction to endure, but it will be worth it if in the end the three towns get a high school that we can be proud of, physically and academically. Let's not discount the 68 percent grandfathered reimbursement. When you're talking in the millions, 10 percent adds up to a lot! And remember, the cost of the projects for the middle and high schools are spread throughout three towns and many years. Talk about needing a new elementary school is only in the beginning stages. Let's not mix this in with what's happening with the middle and high schools, which have separate school committees, and are now in the feasibility planning stage. Competition in this town for school space starts in preschool, where there are not enough spots for al of the kids whose parents wish for them to attend a school in town (my 3 year old goes to one in Walpole). Let's build on the momentum that we have so far by attending the town meeting on Saturday, May 5th, and making sure that the King Philip project continues to move forward. If you have children in preschool, the H. Olive Day School, or the Freeman-Centennial School, these issues regarding the schools are very important. Do not assume that the issues regarding the middle and high schools are in the distant future, or that the elected officials in this town share your views on possilbe solutions. If you've never been to the middle or high schools, go take a look before the town meeting, to get an idea of the conditions of the schools. Important decisions regarding these schools are being made this spring. Please take a few hours that Saturday to attend the town meeting, it could make a big difference in your child's future! - CR 3/3  11:44am   BB - I couldn't agree with you and Bill Perron more. If we are really at crisis level why don't we take a hard look at the Olive Day School. When the unknowing eye is given a tour the administration does a great job of showing it at capacity. However, why are there two part-time Kindergarten teachers each, with their own rooms? Why is the SACC program given an entire room when it is run only for a portion of the day? Why is the Art Room , with a part-time Art Teacher given a room almost two times the size of any given classroom. If we really tried to be creative, we could put Music and Art back on a Cart, based out of one of the two teachers rooms. For that matter we could free up yet another classroom in Olive Day and put the Computer Lab back into its original space. Or, why not disperse the additional computers from the lab and have the computer teacher go into the classrooms instead of having classes come to her? Many people have expressed concern over this. Why don't you move the Third grade to the Olive Day School (where it belongs) into these spaces and free up all those rooms at the Freeman. That could potentially ease up some of the burden on the already over-taxed tax payers. A plan like this could buy a lot more time for the town to help expand its tax base before we have to be tapped for more override money. I have always been a great supporter of the school, but it seems to me that there is an alarming amount of waste that is happening in our schools. Yet Another Concerned Citizen - JD 3/3  8:16am   Interesting ideas from Selectman Bill Perron in the local press: build a new high school, recycle the old high school into a new junior high school and have the King Philip District sell the current junior high school to the town of Norfolk to be used as a new elementary school. At a time when the town is faced with the "build, build, build" syndrome coming from the managers of the school systems, creative thinking on how we can save money and buildings while still providing excellent education is most welcome. We are proud as a town of our "A" rated recycling of papers, bottles, plastic, etc. Let's see if we can also recycle our public buildings. I have always believed that it is the quality of teaching and not having the most modern, up-to-date building that is the key to education. - BB 3/1  11:54pm   Concerned Citizen [ . . . ], you say the fire department isn't that busy . . . do you work there? Do you hold some type of grudge which helps you justifiy making a comment such as that. Your idea is a good one, but try being somewhat more constructive. - PP 3/1  3:55pm   I think the Concerned Citizen brings up some good points, but I hope he/she realizes that the NFD does a lot more than just put out fires. They also handle the ambulance, which I'm sure keeps them very busy. Wouldn't the Red Cross or a local hospital also offer CPR classes? Also, if we had a full time FD, that would make a big difference in the coverage we all deserve. - PA 3/1  11:01am   To The Board of Selectmen and Fire Chief: About a year and a half ago I suggested that each department in town should have at least two people able to perform CPR. The fire department could hold classes during the day or in the evening. I know that the fire department is not too busy to teach these classes; although they have other duties, there are not a lot of fires in the town. I first asked about this 1 1/2 or 2 years ago and did not get any response. Even though the fire department is located close to the other departments in the town, the first 4 to 5 minutes are very important to CPR. Consider, the highway department will be out the in field working and someone [might need emergency assistance] - someone would have to go to the trucks and call for help, and it will take 4 to 10 minutes to get help from the fire department. Someone at the site should be able to perform CPR [while waiting]. This is the same [situation] at the schools, town hall, or any other town department. - Concerned Citizen

2/27  10:02pm   Happy belated Incorporation Day! I was staring at the logo on the Afghan last night when it struck me that Norfolk got its town charter on February 23, 1870. This anniversary, which was a scant four days ago, is recent enough for us to wish Norfolk a belated birthday :-) 2/27  8:08am   Remember the on-again, off-again claims about traces of life having been discovered on Mars? Well, it's on again. NASA has issued a press release yesterday stating that they found ``compelling evidence that the magnetite crystals in the martian meteorite ALH84001 are of biological origin.'' In effect, the traces have now been found fully consistent with an organic origin to the point of there being no known non-biological process that could have caused them. (A local bacterial infusion is also ruled out, since the traces in the 13,000 year old meteorite are encased in carbonate globules 3.9 billion years old.) There is additional reporting in the San Francisco Chronicle and the BBC as well. 2/27  12:03am   Why did Sovereign Bank move their sign? There was a tasteful sign of "Totally Free Checking" on the outside of their building. This sign worked for me, I was "sold" and signed up. Now the sign is tucked inside a window barely visible. What happened? Does someone from the town enforce that? [...] - PR [ 3/5  7:17pm   Update: ok, we asked - banners and signs are indeed governed by zoning bylaws, the bank was found out of compliance, and when this was pointed out to them, they obliged by moving the sign. Naturally, the bank was disappointed, but ``was impressed with the speed and courtesy that Mr. Coelho, Norfolk's Building Commissioner/Zoning Officer showed in acting in the Town's interest.'' - Wm. ] 2/26  3:36pm   I would like to add to the Southwood notes. There were comments that all the applicants to develop the Southwood site wanted was a zoning change. In the real world, zoning changes can dramatically transform a community without careful oversight. The Norfolk Planning Board is not likely to give a developer carte blanche in writing zoning for the Town of Norfolk. The recommended zoning change on the surface appeared harmless but that is not the case. Zoning is written with specific areas of Town in mind. It is not prudent to just take zoning written for Route 115 on the Millis line and apply it to the Southwood site. That in a nutshell is what the Planning board was telling Caritas at the Public Hearing. Representatives of Caritas agreed, and have been working with the Planning Board to get some reasonable Zoning changes on the Warrant. If zoning changes were adopted as requested, the Southwood site would have allowed 582 units, far in excess of the conceptual plan shown to the Planning Board. If the changes went through, the board would not have the ability to scale back the development to the conceptual size. During the Public discussion the Planning Board never claimed this to be an undesirable proposal or made any effort to dissuade the applicant. This is all a matter of public record. All meetings are recorded and transcribed. The Developers are being prudent in getting support from the planning Board and the Zoning Bylaw Study Committee. It would be a difficult battle at Town meeting without their support. - SM 2/25  4:11pm   We had company over the week-end, and we went skiing up to Wachusett Mountain. For one who skis only once or twice a year, my speed and control have improved quite a bit - I was having fun on their black diamond runs! (of course, this is Wachusett, but still :-) 2/25  4:00pm   This is a response to KP: I travel 115 every day, and if you stay the speed limit for the road conditions you would have no problem on our roads. The highway department does the best job among the surrounding towns. If you don't believe me, take a survey around town and just ask! If you want to drive fast on these roads just stay off 115 and drive through Franklin into Millis! You do a great job guys, thank you!!! - KC 2/24  1:53pm   RE: What does Millis know that Norfolk doesn't? How about letting businesses operate within their town, thereby generating tax revenues that can be applied to basic services such as snow removal. Our guys do the best job possible considering [the] limitations. - PA 2/23  7:19pm   WHAT DOES MILLIS KNOW THAT NORFOLK DOESN'T?? I live near the Foxboro end of town and travel to Millis every morning along Route 115, the main thoroughfare through town. After each snowfall, I'm amazed that 115 is always a mess until I reach the Millis town line. From there, the road is clear of any ice or snow. It would appear that there's some freak of Nature where the snow stops falling at the town line, or, more likely, Millis knows how to treat their roadways. Am I the only one who notices this? And, more importantly, what can Norfolk learn from Millis? - KP 2/23  11:54am   I would like to commend the Norfolk Highway Department. Last night at 10pm, I saw a truck out sanding, and today at 7am my road had been plowed and was quite navigable. Nice job, folks!! - PA 2/22  7:36pm   My comment about plowing and cul-de-sacs . . . . . . That a boy [KC]!!!! - SW 2/22  9:28am   More press! The Boston Globe obliquely mentioned this web site in an article about the town administrator, on Page 1 of the Metro West section (on 2/22/01). Although they couldn't reach Balukonis for comment, they quoted the public farewell letter he posted here in its entirety. 2/21  11:26pm   How's this for an idea - have fewer PCs in the classroom! and more thin clients attached to servers. As reported in this story, the idea is to substitute for the $1000 desktop computer a $100 client that is not only less costly to maintain, but is also much easier to manage. 2/21  8:32am   When are you going to stop putting cul-de-sacs in the towns? Then you put an island in the middle of the cul-de-sac which is very difficult for us to plow and maintain. Evidently no-one on the planning board has ever plowed snow before, or they would see how different [they are] and would not [authorize them]. I would think if it was up to the highway superintendent they would not have them. An example of such a road is Perigo Lane. - KC 2/20  11:36am   FYI: Stay off of the ponds. Hasn't been cold enough consistently. Use the rink instead. They have public skating available just about every day. - PA 2/19  10:10pm   To SH: The Board of Health's agent actually works for Norfolk two days a week, for a few hours a day, but he's 'on call' if we ever really need him. - PA 2/18  9:00pm   I'm finally going to get a chance to try out my brand new skates tomorrow! So anyone know the status of the ice on the local ponds? (Hi, Dobritte! :-) [ Ok, scratch that idea - as Dobritte says, ``No one has been skating on [Mirror Lake], and I personally would be afraid of falling through!''. Another time, then - Wm. ] 2/18  6:16pm   For the curious among you, there is a fascinating article on ``tetrachromacy'', the ability of a few women to see colors in a unique and different way. The article explains the mechanism and the genetic mutation that can cause some to have color receptors in the retina sensitive to four different wavelengths of light instead of the usual three, red, green and blue. 2/16  11:19am   Today is my last day of employment as Norfolk's Town Administrator. I would like to say "thank you" to everyone for giving me such a fine place to call home for 8 years. It was a good run! Please accept my sincerest appreciation for having the privilege to work here. - Greg Balukonis, Town Administrator 2/18  11:54am   To TF, PC, and VR: Thanks for the edification about the Planning Board and their concern with the Southwood project. I also learned that the agent for the Board of Health doesn't even work full time for us, so I'm relieved that at least one board has it covered. Thanks! - SH 2/17  12:11pm   To TF re:Southwood -- it is my understanding that a conceptual project has been proposed. There have been no formal project plans submitted to the Planning Board(PB). The PB was asked to consider a zoning change to be submitted for approval at Town Meeting. The existing zoning on this district is pretty limited. The timing of the zoning change request is to accommodate Caritas Norwood/Southwood Hospital. Caritas is under a severe financial strain to maintain the quality of their Norwood operations, this zoning change will allow Caritas to sell the Southwood property and pay off bond debt due in October. I applaud Caritas for coming to the PB asking for their support of a zoning change . . . . Caritas could have submitted a warrant article directly to Town Meeting. On its face, this is a good project for the Town - there is no downside to any Board in Town taking a position supporting this CONCEPT. Unless the PB or any other Board in town is going to go out and help find a $50-60 million dollar development (w/ no school age children) backed by a national developer with the horsepower to pull it off then why not give this project a chance to germinate. No plans has been submitted, investigated, approved, denied . . . or abandoned for that matter. Just a zoning change folks . . . a chance to see this project possibly happen. - PC 2/16  11:19am   Today is my last day of employment as Norfolk's Town Administrator. I would like to say "thank you" to everyone for giving me such a fine place to call home for 8 years. It was a good run! Please accept my sincerest appreciation for having the privilege to work here. - Greg Balukonis, Town Administrator 2/16  9:59pm   I would like to thank Dr. Lukon, Toby Lyons, Judy Warren, and the others from the school committee for arranging the tour of the Freeman-Centennial Schools. It was a real eye-opener for me to see the entire school, and to learn by seeing when the school is full of students the kind of space and physical structure issues that are apparent as you walk through. Unfortunately, there were as many administrators and school committee members on hand today as there were parents. Another tour is scheduled for Saturday, March 3 at 10:00 a.m. Even if you have children in the school and are familiar with the building, I think it's a good idea to attend, so that you can see first hand how the building is being used, what the space issues are, and learn a bit of interesting history that is included in a handout about the school. Because it's a Saturday, you'll have to imagine what it's like with 656 students in the building, but it's still definitely worth taking the tour! - CR 2/16  9:52pm   To SH: Re. your message to AW, be advised that the Planning Board is not opposed to a project that will bring substantial revenue to the town with no burden on the schools. The Planning Board considers the Southwood site to be a suitable site of Age Restricted Housing and recognizes it to be perhaps the highest use for that site. However, the Board has the right to as much data as the applicant can provide it in order to determine the feasibility of the project. I suspect you would not invest in something without performing due diligence nor even buy a pair of shoes without trying them on. Comments made by a municipal board at a preliminary meeting should not be viewed as a rejection of an idea but rather a desire to dig deeper in an effort to protect the interests of the Town of Norfolk - to make sure it fits. The developer must convince the board that it has done its homework and will not be running away from a half finished project as a result of failing to do so. - TF 2/16  3:37pm   To SH: I'm not familiar with the jurisdictions of the different boards in town. If contaminated sites are the responsibility of the Board of Health, then I would hope that they, too, are looking closely at the situation at Southwood and evaluating its potential future impact. However, that shouldn't limit other boards, nor other residents, from airing their concerns or providing their input, preferably before any long-term changes are approved for use of the facility. [Incidentally, my understanding is that Title V deals with septic regulations, and is not directly linked to subsurface contamination problems]. - VR 2/16  3:28pm   To VR: It is nice that the Planning Board has the time and initiative to look into those affairs pertaining to Southwood, but wouldn't contamination of the subsurface fall under the jurisprudence of the Board of Health? They have an award winning health agent who helped author Title V, and they should be the ones concerned with any type of issue such as the one at Southwood. - SH 2/16  11:10am   Regarding prepaying parking - I did this a few months ago. According to Allright Parking, you may not prepay for more than the first day. They will leave envelopes and you must pay $1.50 for each extra day. He also said that officially they don't recommend leaving your car in the lot over night. This weekend, Monday will be free as well since the train is on a weekend schedule. - AL 2/15  5:33pm   How do you pay for several days' parking at the Norfolk T station? The standard procedure is for one day at a time, and neither the sign at the payment station, nor the T website, give any help. I want to take the train in on Sunday and back out on Wednesday. Sunday is free, but how do I pay for the three days Mon-Tue-Wed in advance? Anyone done this before? - MM 2/14  11:06am     Happy Valentine's Day! 2/13  10:37pm   To SH: The way I understand it, the Planning Board had some questions regarding contamination of the subsurface at Southwood. I don't know the details of the problem there, but depending on the type and the extent of contamination, it can take years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to adequately clean up such sites. And since most towns around here are dependent on groundwater for their drinking water supplies, it is especially important to be sure that sites are cleaned up so that there is no future health impact to residents. I agree that the proposed future use of the land is likely to be very positive for Norfolk, but I commend the Planning Board members for making sure that all aspects are satisfactorily addressed. - VR 2/13  9:15pm   To AW: Our table, (and the one next to us, at least) was like a Norfolk version of Crossfire!! I heard about the Planning Board yesterday and their resistance to a plan that would not be a burden on our school system, and bring in anywhere from $500K to $800K annually. (Why bring in revenue when we can have our taxes raised again?) - SH 2/12  7:27pm   To SH: Yes, the Norfolk Community League should be commended for their efforts . . . the Valetine's Dance was a great time Saturday night. Still though, I have to wonder which dance you went to last Saturday, as I didn't hear much political discussion about anything worth listening to, let alone worth commenting on . . . . If you are looking for real controversy, check into last Thursday's (2/8/01) Planning Board meeting about the Southwood Hospital sale. - AW 2/12  3:20pm   The temporary bridge on Miller Street is getting just as bad as the original bridge, if not worse. The street itself is just as bad! - PR 2/12  10:57am   Thanks to the Norfolk Community League for a great time at the dance Saturday night. Aside from having a blast, the air was rife with local political talk . . . . . such as who's going to run for selectmen, why we can get by without a town administrator (we got by without a health agent two years ago without any major calamity) and the most talk centered around Con Com and how they feel future actions should be ratified now. Your web site also got rave reviews!! - SH 2/12  10:55am   I read yesterday's Boston Globe and came away feeling angry. We've been paying $65,000 dollars a year for a Town Administrator, and now he walks away on Friday . . . with a severance package we don't know about. If it does take months to a year to replace him, can't we use some of his salary for the Community Protection Act. - TG 2/11  9:21pm   We recently received permission from the Sun-Chronicle to post their January 26 article about this website; you can find it here [large 153K image]. Just two minor corrections: the webmaster@norfolknet.com address is normally reserved for administrative mail [you can reach me at andras@norfolknet.com, or click on one of the links - Wm.] And as anyone who has participated in some of the more heated discussions can tell you, Norfolk Notes is only uncensored as long as the posts remain polite and courteous. 2/11  6:46pm   The short thaw and melt notwithstanding, winter is still with us. The word for Sunday night is cold. Down to single digits overnight, with wind gusts to 30 mph. Calmer but still cold Monday, highs in the upper 20s; snow probable Monday evening. 2/11  1:01pm   I feel like the end of an era has come. I moved from my small particle-board computer desk to a full-size office desk with drawers and space and everything. But as I was peeling off the taped-on notices that accumulated during the past ten years of use, I was thinking that I'll miss that little ugly beat-up desk, if not for comfort then for our shared history. 2/8  12:55pm   So a brave and daring moving truck pulled out of a driveway, cut across two lanes of busy traffic and darted into a tiny gap in the flow of cars. Cleverly done, if a tad reckless. I laughed when I saw the name on the side: ``Death Wish Piano Moving''. 2/6  7:44am   The first rays of sunshine found me in a wintry wonderland of silence. Nothing disturbed the peaceful solitude of the morning but the sound of a lone snow shovel, and the din of snowblowers. [Din? Did I say din? I meant sound - no, wait - music! Yes, the melody of snowblowers! After all, that may be me in a few years. Besides, I live in this town, and I don't want anyone to come and dump snow in my driveway.] [Did I say dump snow? You know, it's eery, but I could have sworn I had the driveway clear down to the road last night, and this morning a small mountain range of snow blocked access. I wonder . . . :-)] I don't understand the physics of it, but snow is a curious substance. The light and delightfully fluffy powder next to the house that virtually leaps from the path of the shovel progessively turns into a heavy, immovable, ice-laden sludge that has to be pried off the asphalt and dragged over to the side. This odd property is not always evident on close inspection, and it may be that sighting down the length of a snow shovel handle is involved in its full appreciation. 2/3  2:54pm   I agree with JP. Leave the current setup in place. The traffic disruptions are minimal. Something else to consider, moving the station will draw business away from those stores adjacent to the current station location (as well as any stores to be located near the upper lot). Quite a bit of the business activity for these stores is walkup trade during morning and evening rush hour. It is true that people from other towns are using the Norfolk lots, but they are also supporting local businesses by spending money in Norfolk. If the lots are moved, a lot of that business will drive right past our town center. - EM 2/3  9:28am   Hey PA - Watch out, from what I heard the schools are looking to ask for another override at Spring Town meeting to fund a summer school program that they did not receive much anticipated grant money from the state. I also heard that it was not going to be open to all students. When will enough be enough? What do you think? - JD 2/3  8:57am   If it seems to you that downloading this page is unusually slow, yes, we've observed it, too, and no, it is not caused by us, and no, we do not know where the problem lies. Performance of the network in general was poor all day Friday, too, from multiple access points. 2/2  12:31pm   CPA? More taxes? My pockets cannot go any deeper. The idea sounds nice, but I'm running out of funds, and I'm sure we'll hear the O word (override) in the spring town meeting. - PA

1/29  10:09pm   The Norfolk Community League will undertake the restoration of Town Pond (by old town hall). Come spring, they will be asking for volunteers to put in picnic tables and put in trails in the woods behind old town hall. This sounds neat, and I'm really looking forward to it! Thank you, NCL! 1/29  3:08pm   Why do we allow people from Franklin to use our lots, anyway? Aren't their two train stations enough for them? I heard about the ConComm idea of having future actions okayed now on the radio while driving home the other night. When Howie Carr is talking about Norfolk, we've made the big time!! - BI 1/29  12:21pm   Is it me or does this idea of moving the MBTA lots make no sense. Think of it. Currently, people leaving the lots have 5 ways of exiting - Main St (in both directions), Union St and 115 (in both directions). If the lot goes where it is proposed there will only be 2 ways to exit. Furthermore, if more than half of the users of the lot are from Franklin you're going to have everyone heading towards the blinking light. This will create huge tie-ups, which would probably require a police officer to direct traffic after every train comes in (more cost to residents). I've taken some of the rush hour trains and traffic clears up within 10 minutes. This will NOT happen with the proposed lot. Just my thoughts - JP 1/29  12:29pm   (This post appeared a few days ago, and is being repeated for increased visibility - Wm) Regarding the official town page - The town should have an official web page that is owned and controlled by the town, which would ideally not overlap this community page but be complemented by it. Information on the official page could include a Who's Who in town government and how to contact them, the terms of various officials/board members and the charter/objective of each board, an up-to-date listing of upcoming meetings and their agendas, and notices from various town departments. See the Medfield town page for a good example of this. Putting together such a page would be more work than one person could do on a volunteer basis, but it would certainly not be out of the reach of a committee of interested and qualified volunteers. In such a situation, the role of web committee members would be to help develop an outline for the page content and format, and then to post information provided by town officials on a regular basis. Assuming that such a group could be established, and that town departments would contribute content, we would be happy to participate and to help with the technical details associated with setting up and managing a town-owned account. So, any volunteers? - Ed & Wm. 1/28  5:10pm   All the comments regarding ice fishing and the location of the fire station have been moved to the town development page. Yes, it was too soon for that, but it was forced by the volume of posts that arrived on Thursday/Friday/Saturday. Do check the page, because it contains a number of new messages. 1/27  9:11pm   When I was at the library I picked up a copy of a newsletter called Strategically Speaking published by the schools. I am impressed with all that they are doing to improve the schools. I like to know that they have a long term plan and that my tax dollars are being well spent. I hope that this kind of communication from the schools will continue. - GN 1/27  8:35pm   I've made a change to the internal structure of the NorfolkNet page. In theory, most of you will not even notice that anything's changed, unless I've slipped up somewhere - so please e-mail me if something seems to not be working as it should. (Technical details follow: The actual file, "norfolk.htm", used to be located through a symbolic link, and now is accessed via a HTTP redirect. The known visible effect is that when viewing the home page, "http://www.norfolknet.com/norfolk/" is now visible in the URL window, where the "norfolk/" part is new. Two reasons I prefer the redirect is that 1. I will no longer have to be extra careful when creating internal anchors, since normal file scope rules will work, and 2. I will be able to locally browse the sub-pages by simply clicking the links.) 1/28  4:19pm    Update: You may notice that the "Directories" menu section is gone; its entries have been moved into "About Norfolk" and "About Us". Some have been renamed slightly to make their contents more obvious. 1/27  4:19pm   To LT (and anyone else who wonders why more town government meetings, i.e. Con Comm, Planning Board etc., are not broadcast on NCTV Channel 22) there is only one reason why more meetings are not televised. We need more volunteers. NCTV is a Public Access Station and operates mostly with volunteers. I am a paid employee and with the help of two volunteers we televise the Selectmen's meetings and the Board of Health meetings and occasionally Con Comm, Planning Board and others. If you want to see these meetings more regularly, call me at 520-0407 and I'll teach you how to operate the camera so that you can tape the meetings. We do as much as we can. But since this is PUBLIC ACCESS TV station, what gets taped and gets broadcast is almost entirely up to the good people in town. So, if you'd like to see more, come on down and we'll show you how to get it done. I, for one, would love to have ALL the town board meetings televiseds. It would help to avoid a LOT of mis-information that goes around this town as fact. - Paul Guertin, Station Manager, NCTV 1/27  8:02am   Read about you in the newspaper. Had no idea you existed until then. Are others as appalled as I am at the idea of taking some of our scarce commercially zoned land for a fire station? Is anyone thinking about the future of this town and the fact that many years from now land will be needed for the stores and offices that even a so-called "rural" town requires? Giving lip service to the ecomomic development of the town and a desire to work more positively with potential businesses while depleting the resources necessary makes no sense to me. I'm one of those rare birds - I've lived in Norfolk all my life and love it. I have always wanted this town to be well developed to serve all of its citizens. To me this means a good balance between residents and businesses. It means a good balance in housing so that we have residents with a range of incomes and types of homes. It means being able to fund excellent schools and recreation for all without forcing older folks on fixed incomes and young people just starting out in their careers and marriages out of town. It means having a tax base that will allow the town to provide the best public safety and other services to its citizens. I didn't intend to get on my soap box when I started this note. However, I do feel strongly about these issues and hope others do too. - BB 1/27  7:43am   To SF - As for the Town's responsibility on dealing with the old town hall. That would be the best situation for the Town, to unload it on someone who can develop the area and the Town can get business tax revenue in. However, in this day and age the developers are too sophisticated and financially driven to acquire "distressed property" even at a reduced cost. Any developer would look at development costs and abatement/demolition costs and look a payback period. I wouldn't be surprised if it cost the Town, even if the building and land were given away. Since the last post, I looked at a project I am working on taking down two older buildings with similarities of the old town hall each with similar environmental concerns . . . the price tag is over a quarter million. A change order we are looking at is that the fuel oil tank in the basement of one building leaked . . . What was not mentioned in the earlier post about that site is that unsuitable soil would have to excavated and disposed of and then suitable material would have to brought in . . . more cost. This is where the old town hall building is, and in the immediate area. The Lieb reports suggests that the building be set back from the road nearly 500 feet . . . I don't know if that is a good or bad thing. The lot gets wider as you go away from the road. One problem with that is the placement of the building and access road would be right where a drive to that proposed MBTA parking lot is supposed to go. I don't think that I would want the fire department having to deal with commuter traffic getting to an emergency. You and I are in agreement that Town can't run away from the problem. I know they looked at the existing fire station but that location had limitations as well. One of the other sites is the land across the street near the post office. The town could take the land by eminent domain and compensate at fair market value. I believe though that looking at that land, there is quite a bit of bedrock and blasting is not cheap . . . and acquiring the land would not be cheap. I also recall hearing about the regional police station but I can't remember why the plans went on the back burner. In regards to your comment about "State funding for the town hall because the police station was going to be located there" I still can't figure that one out. - AB 1/26  11:16pm   To AB: I will take your word on the subsurface material. But as for the demolition and asbestos, isn't the town going to need to deal with that anyway. We can not run away from the problem. Would we simply try to 'unload' the property to a developer to handle? I believe at the meeting, the selectmen were concerned about the ability of acquiring the properties on either side of the fire station. There was discussion regarding adding a second level however. Another question (or question), didn't we hear about a regional police or fire department, either with Wrentham or Millis, a few years ago. And didn't we get state funding for the town hall because the police station was going to be located there. - SF 1/26  10:42pm   To SF on the fire station at the old town hall. You can ask the Selectmen's Office for a copy of the study prepared by Allen M. Lieb Architects and this will list many of the reasons why the old town hall is a marginal location. The report summary is and I'm quoting.... "When considering the amount of environmental issues related to this property one would not consider it to be the most advantageous to develop, however, given it's overall size, the proposed facility could likely be design[ed] and engineered around any anticipated restrictions. Although it is also important to note that given these environmental issues this would be a more costly site to engineer and develop than the others." If you have been in the old town hall when it was open, the septic system had to be pumped nearly weekly. The subsurface material in the area is poor for drainage and poor for structural support. This area had been filled with "junk." A conventional foundation of footings and walls would not support a building with the weight requirements of a building housing a Fire Station, let alone a building that houses an 8 ton fire truck. A foundation consisting of pressure injected footings, grade beams, structural slabs, concrete piles or steel piles would put a price tag of mid 6 figures on the foundation alone. And you still don't have a building or a working septic system. The other unknowns for this site consist of the demolition of the old town hall. I know that there are asbestos floor tiles in the building, and who knows what else there is in the walls. I'm guessing on this but the building is so old that there would be at least one layer of lead paint in the building. The removal and proper disposal of any material with lead based paint is not cheap either (price tag is about $300.00 per ton). The other location that I know was studied was the existing fire station. I don't have the report but this was also ruled out for some reason . . . ask the Selectmen's Office for that report. - AB 1/26  9:31pm   To DN, PC, LT, and others: Regarding the official town page - The town should have an official web page that is owned and controlled by the town, which would ideally not overlap this community page but be complemented by it. Information on the official page could include a Who's Who in town government and how to contact them, the terms of various officials/board members and the charter/objective of each board, an up-to-date listing of upcoming meetings and their agendas, and notices from various town departments. See the Medfield town page for a good example of this. Putting together such a page would be more work than one person could do on a volunteer basis, but it would certainly not be out of the reach of a committee of interested and qualified volunteers. In such a situation, the role of web committee members would be to help develop an outline for the page content and format, and then to post information provided by town officials on a regular basis. Assuming that such a group could be established, and that town departments would contribute content, we would be happy to participate and to help with the technical details associated with setting up and managing a town-owned account. So, any volunteers? - Ed & Wm. 1/26  8:51pm   Before I forget, if you're curious about the face behind the page, the Attleboro Sun-Chronicle wrote a nice article about us in today's issue (Friday, 1/26/2001). The library keeps a copy of the paper :-) 1/26  7:50pm   Ok, it's been busy these last two days, and I've fallen behind on posting your messages. There are a number of them that arrived today that I have yet to post; I'll try to get to them this evening. And, completely unrelated, it must have been new moon today, because only the tiniest sliver was visible in the evening sky. 1/26  8:29pm   My husband sat in on a couple of Con Comm meetings, and he remembers a volunteer cameraman from the cable studio being treated rudely, so that's probably why they don't have meetings on TV. Also, are my tax dollars going towards a town web site when we already have one (yours) that we love? - LT 1/26  8:31pm   Ok. I'm trying to understand the issue with the new fire station. I can see the need to build a new one but I am concerned how our tax rate will look after approving a KP school improvements, Centennial school improvements, library improvements, and if as planned, we build a new fire station, then police department improvements. At the 1/22 selectmans meeting, I heard that the proposed space was zoned business hence we would be losing tax revenue. Perhaps the zoning is not right, but how about the following idea. Build a new police and fire station at the site of the old town hall. When completed, the current police/fire station could sold for business development. This plan would allow the town to realize business tax revenue from the propose fire station site and from resale and taxes from the current station. I understand the cost to develop the town hall property would be high, but are there any plans for this build that would not cost the town. Are we just going to let the build fall down or will someone be asking for more money in a couple years for another project. - SF [ This would be reasonable, but why not simply add on to the existing fire station, and if at some point the police station needs expansion room, move them to a new location? - Wm. ] 1/26  8:27pm   Is there a ban on commercial vehicles being parked in residential neighborhoods? And, if so, how does one report someone, confidentially? Thanks. 1/26  8:12pm   Wm - Regarding your web page/hosting comments, if you can provide a better service with what the town needs on a more economical basis I think you should make a proposal to the town if you are willing. The taxes which will support same are ours and no taxpayer wants those dollars wasted. Consider it !! - PC [ I'm considering, I'm considering . . . :-) Wm. ] 1/26  8:11pm   Isn't it a bit redundant to have a [second] Norfolk web page? - DN 1/25  10:01pm   Ok, I looked up the Selectmen's Notes in the Norfolk Press when I got home, I was curious about this latest ConCom brouhaha. From the description, the proposal was clearly too ludicrous to warrant serious consideration, but what caught my eye was the issue with the lawyers. What's this about the town not providing legal assistance to the ConCom? [ Update: I have been informed that the question of legal access for the ConCom pertained solely to future issues, and has been resolved - Wm. ] 1/25  9:52pm   It pays to read the local paper, it keeps one informed. We read a while back that the town was considering getting a web page, and that they would get in touch with us for our input and advice. Then later, not too long ago, we again read that the town was excited about getting a web page, and that they were going to call the NorfolkNet people for their input and recommendations. And today we read that it's all settled, the town will be getting a web page! No phone call yet, mind you. The deal must have been too good to resist, although $200 per month seems a bit steep for hosting what is in effect a do-it-yourself web page. 1/25  8:52pm   We got curious, and sent an e-mail to massaudubon.org to see what we could find out about their ice fishing policy. We were pleased to receive a quite detailed reply from Pam Musk, Sanctuary Director, detailing their actions in this matter. As she explains, it's out of their hands, as Kingfisher Pond is on Department of Environmental Management (DEM) land, and they have chosen to allow fishing: I just returned from vacation to see your message regarding fishing at Stony Brook. To address your writer's questions, let me give you some information about the history of Stony Brook. Stony Brook Wildlife Sanctuary and Bristol Blake State Reservation are properties co-managed by the Massachusetts Audubon Society (MAS) and the state Department of Environmental Management (DEM). The property was donated separately to the two organizations with the understanding that we would work together to manage them. MAS has a no fishing policy on most of our properties. As such, we posted and enforced the policy on both the MAS and DEM property at Stony Brook/Bristol Blake. DEM is a state agency that allows fishing on all but a few of their properties. The point was recently made that fishing should also be allowed at Bristol Blake. Upon researching the gift of land to DEM and MAS, it was found that the donor specified that no fishing was to take place on the land donated to MAS but this was not specifically stated on the DEM portion of the donation. As a result, DEM decided that fishing would take place on the portion of land owned by DEM. Kingfisher Pond, the large pond visible from North St., is DEM property and so fishing and ice fishing are now permitted. Fishing is still prohibited on the MAS property located on the opposite side of North St. from the Nature Center. The fishing policy went into effect in October 2000. There are stipulations that go with the new policy. First, all rules and regulations of DEM and MAS must be adhered to. These rules are posted at the entrance to the Nature Center. Second, all fishermen must enter through the main entrance and either show their DEM season pass, MAS membership or pay the admission fee. Third, fishing is allowed from designated areas only. A map of these areas is available at the Nature Center. We will monitor the effect of fishing on wildlife and the people who visit Stony Brook/Bristol Blake. We will review this policy on an annual basis and make any adjustments deemed necessary by both DEM and MAS. I hope this has addressed all the concerns expressed by your email. I would be happy to speak to anyone directly who has further questions. I can be reached by phone at (508) 528-3140 or email pmusk@massaudubon.org. Pam Musk Sanctuary Director 1/25  8:52pm   Can anyone tell me if ConComm members are elected, appointed, or anointed? How come we never see their meetings on TV or read about them? Also, I'm an avid ice fishermen. Maybe they're sloppy in Britain, but here in the US of A, we love our land too much to leave miles of line behind. - CE [ The ConCom topic has come up before, and is most conveniently accessible on the town growth/development page. In response to your question in particular, the posts dated 10/15 1:06am and 10/5 10:09pm address the issue of how the board is formed (appointed) and when terms expire. The question of why ConCom meetings are not televised has also been raised, and was answered in a 10/5 3:45pm post by Paul Guertin, NCTV station manager (they need a volunteer to go and tape it every week). - Wm.] 1/25  2:01pm   I have to disagree with LT's glib argument about ice fishing. Even the most conscientious and careful fishermen eventually lose tackle - fishing line easily snaps when it becomes tangled in tree branches during casting or when hooks get snagged on rocks in the water. And even the smallest amount of lost line can add up to a huge problem for animals: a U.K. study found that, in just two weeks, fishermen discarded or lost 36,000 pieces of line - totaling 6 kilometers - around a 2-kilometer stretch of embankment. So what? Well, birds and bats who fly into fishing line caught in trees become hopelessly entangled; most will slowly starve to death. Animals who get entangled in line that is on the ground can become trapped underwater and drown if it catches on rocks or debris. Baby birds can be strangled if their parents use bits of fishing line when weaving their nests. Unfortunately, the more animals struggle, the tighter monofilament line becomes - animals who don't die can suffer severed wings or feet. It is insane for the Audubon Society to allow fishing in a sanctuary. there are plenty of other places for fishermen to do their thing. - DF 1/25  1:58pm   Can anyone tell me what the heck is going on with the Conservation Commission? I just saw the selectmen's meeting, and I'm personally appalled that they are looking to have all FUTURE actions ratified via a warrant at the next Town Meeting. [ . . . ] - TG 1/25  1:57pm   I just saw the Norfolk Press and can't stop laughing. Can you believe the ConComm wanted to have an article on the spring Town Meeting warrant basically asking for support on all future issues? I thought the recall petition last fall was the most ludicrous thing I had ever seen, but this one might be even more inane. Give me a break. - PA 1/25  1:56pm   I'm not sure what JD is referring to, but I had a meeting yesterday with one of my children's teachers, and some other staff members, at the H. Olive Day School, and I came away thoroughly impressed with their skills, approach, amd teaching methods. My wife and I had originally thought of sending them to a nearby private school, and we are very happy now that we didn't go that route. - PA 1/25  9:03am   Can anyone tell me the names of the school committee members and if there are published rules and bylaws for the school? Can anyone get a copy of these rules? There are some strange things going on these days at both our schools and I would like to know where one stands within the published "rules" - JD 1/24  7:30pm   Without ice fishing, the total number of fish in any pond, stream, vernal pool, etc. would be intolerable to themselves. As far as wildlife getting hooks in their feet, etc., any responsible fisherman would clean up after themselves and take their gear with them. On a personal note, if I see another deer run out onto Main St., I'm going to set my husband and his hunting buddies loose on it!! - LT 1/23  9:20am   The snow was neat Sunday; shoveling took only an hour, and it was fun. My back is not very sore, and my blisters have mostly healed, so I'm ready for the next one!   (and no, the photo is not of my driveway, and no, I did not shovel the whole road :-) 1/23  9:18am   Doesn't Norfolk have a parking ban during the winter months? I thought they did. It's very annoying when people park on their street when their driveway is shoveled and available. With this much snow, some of the roads are narrow enough and harder for 2 cars going in the opposite direction to pass. If the person's vehicle parked in the street got hit-of course it wouldn't be their fault-would it? Shouldn't this parking ban be followed through by the police if they see it? - RR 1/23  3:48pm   I checked with the police department and yes, Norfolk does have a winter parking ban. According to the person who answered the phone there, overnight parking on the streets is not permitted between the months of November and April/May. I seem to have missed the notice this season though, and perhaps others have as well - VR 1/23  8:22pm   [ We are informed that the actual dates of the parking ban are from November 15 to April 15 - Wm. ] 1/23  9:17am   How can Stonybrook be a sancuary if they are allowing ice fishing now? Why are they allowing ice fishing? Are they going to allow fishing all year? What about the wildlife, fish hooks in their feet, bills etc. and fishing line tangled all over them. - WJ 1/21  6:03pm   To MF: The town of Canton has an excellent adult education program which I have participated in both as a student and as an instructor. They are about to post their Spring Offerings. Go to cantoneveningschool.org - TM 1/19  10:40pm   We must have taken good care of our Christmas tree this year. When all the decorations were already off and I was untangling the lights from the branches, I noticed that some of the branches had sprouted! The buds at the tips of the branches were swollen, and some had little tufts of soft, pale green needles showing; one branch had a half inch of new growth! 1/19  12:04pm   Don't forget, Little League registration is tommorrow, Saturday 1-20-01. If you don't sign up there is a $25 late charge as well as being put on a waiting list. - SM 1/19  12:01pm   Most of the towns around here offer Adult Ed courses on a variety of topics. Norfolk's bulletin is on-line (see the post dated 1/5 9:39am); Dover-Sherborn just sent out their schedule in the mail; and you could probably call the other towns to get a copy of their schedules - VR 1/18  9:10pm   The Norfolk Aggie School on Rt. 1A in Walpole has a lot of Adult Ed courses. - DN 1/18  7:24pm   King Philip Regional School District has adult education classes. Stony Brook Photography Club can help you with photography. Dean Junior College has adult education classes - GW 1/18  6:32pm   Hello, I will be moving to Norfolk in March and I was wondering if anyone knows if Norfolk or any of the surrounding towns have any adult education courses available? Finances, cooking, photography etc. Thank you - MF 1/17  11:47pm   The YMCA in Walpole has a heated pool, and is not too expensive to join. - J.W. 1/16  10:56am   To ER: Boston Sports Club in Franklin, plus the Forge Hill YMCA in Franklin both offer what you're looking for. As far as the roads, when it snows, watch out for Creek St. in Wrentham, right where Lake Pearl is . . . my brother lost control of his car there yesterday and did serious damage to it. Fortunately he wasn't hurt, and no other vehicle was involved. - PA 1/16  10:15am   Can anyone tell me if there is a heated indoor pool in this area where my small daughters and I can swim and take lessons? - ER 1/15  11:44am   The snow may look pretty, but the roads are treacherous. As of 11am, none of the streets or highways had been plowed, and this wet slush must be one of the slickest, slipperiest substances known to mankind. Avoid driving today if you can, and be extra cautious if you must go out. 1/14  9:59pm   Norfolk Community Day is still a long time away, but the planning and preparations are already under way. The program team will be announcing the first organizational meeting in late January or early February. To participate in the festivities or contribute in some way, please see the News Release for contact info. For information about some of the other causes and programs the Lions support, read about the contributions approved at a January board meeting. 1/12  11:22am   Regarding TP's query on elected officials - Joyce Terrio's term is up in May. The standard practice for the BOS is to elect Chairman the person whose term is about to expire. Conservation Commission members are appointed by the Selectmen. The Planning Board and Board of Health are both elected positions. I think Peter Chipman's term will expire in May, the other two were just elected. - AL 1/11  10:18pm   If you get the chance, take a moment to admire the moonlit snowscape. The bright full moon lights up the lawns and fields, and illuminates even the depths of the woods in a way that you don't see in summer. 1/11  9:36pm   We received an interesting bit of spam (unsolicited advertising) from The Sun Chronicle, the Attleboro daily. It seems they have a daily page of local Norfolk news, so I guess they're now another local paper, which is why I attached their letter. The note tries to introduce their two reporters covering the area, solicits tips and story ideas, but also offers two free weeks of home delivery to try the paper. 1/11  9:34pm   Can anyone tell me what Selectmen's seat(s) are open in the election this year, as well as Board of Health and ConComm? Also, is Planning Board elected or appointed? - TP 1/10  9:45am   Sledding - go Union Street or North Street to Shears Street, take a left onto North Street (Across from Mirror Lake Ave.) go past Lind Farm entrance and about 5 yards on the right is a good sledding hill. Also, Nuck Up Hill on Randall Road. Rt. 1A through Wrentham Center take a left at the Mobil Station and Nuck Up Hill is to the left of the Wrentham Library. It used to be a ski hill; very, very steep. - DN 1/9  11:11am   Sledding, try south street headed into Medfield just before Noon Hill road. Large field on left not much parking, 10 cars last Saturday! - JD 1/8  3:18pm   Does anyone know what function the school council provides in Norfolk? How are the members selected? Is there a phone number to contact the chair and/or administrator to find out when the meetings are and what is on the agenda? - SF 1/8  11:55am   Does anyone know of any good places in town to go sledding? - PJ 1/5  9:39am   In case you're interested in the on-line version of the Recreation Department winter class schedule (January - April 2001), I finished converting it. I updated the document to indicate the Two courses that were cancelled, and the new date of the Easter Egg Hunt. The document is available as a set of four PDF files (and require the Adobe Acrobat reader to view), broken up as cover and inside front page (280KB), main contents (504KB), registration page (27KB), and back cover page (120KB). [ 1/23 Update: these pages have been collected onto a newly created Norfolk Recreation sub-page - Wm. ] 1/4  10:55pm   The Norfolk Lions' Soccer registration will be next Wednesday, January 10. Details are on the Calendar. 1/2  10:31pm   We have the NCTV Channel 8 (Community Access) program schedule on-line; thanks Paul! 1/3  2:39pm   Update: the NCTV Channel 22 schedule (Government Access Channel) is now also available. 1/2  9:38pm   Anyone know of any local prenatal yoga classes? - NS 1/1  12:35pm   Kendall Joyce who lives on Spruce Street in Wrentham plows. He also does landscaping and is a really nice guy! - DN 1/1  8:49am   Happy New Year! Previous Archive, Q4 2000 Home