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  • 12/31  11:17am   Does anyone know if any surrounding towns have fireworks tonight (New Year's Eve)? Thanks and Happy New Year.
    - PR

  • 12/31  11:03am   Re: 12/29 1:01am Can anyone tell me about the future of Norfolk airport? [...]
    This was mentioned back on 11/9:
    11/9 10:51pm I sure hope that PA wasn't actually serious about a casino at the site of the old airport. That being said, has anyone else seen this link? [Norfolk Air Park] I'm fairly new in town and have no idea if this "airpark" thing is new or old news. Has this already happened? - JD
    and 11/11:
    11/11 12:34pm to JK - the website discussing the Airpark has been around for many years. I'm pretty sure it was just an idea. Look at the pricing for housing. I remember seeing the exact same site over 4-5 years ago. The key to this was "Opening sales prices will be $190,000 to 250,000". Those are old prices for Norfolk. As far as the recent work at the airport, it looks like they were just cleaning up brush and such. See [norfolkaeroclub.com/events] email the person that runs site. I'm sure he/she could offer more info. - NS

    11/11 10:37am My family and I live right off the Norfolk airport. I was very interested to learn about the airport being re-opened as an "airpark". Being a neighbor to the airport, we knew something was going on because we could see work being done, but we were not notified of any changes (as I think we should have been). And even after work has begun, we have not been told of things to come. Anyway, does anyone have any more information on the airpark? When will it be completed? What will it look like? How will people such as myself that live very close be affected? The web site (mentioned in the messages below) said something about 2-3 acre homesites? I take it there is going to be more building in the area? I would really appreciate some more information if anyone has any. Thanks, - JK

    You might ask:
    Norfolk Aero Club Inc.
    PO Box 78,
    Norfolk, MA 02056-0078
    (It looks like they did some land clearing and grass mowing, per their website.)

    Paul Terrio - Norfolk Aero Club President
    Rockwood Rd., Norfolk
    Email: pterrio@NorfolkAeroClub.com

    or the Norfolk Planning Board [website]

    The Planning Board could tell you if any plans for development have been filed for that land. The assessors could tell you who owns the land, and you could ask that person directly.
    - AN

  • 12/30  1:42pm   Wm., You asked "... how should I handle duplicates?"
    Just a thought, but you could start "requiring" a 3-letter moniker to lessen the chance that duplication will become a huge problem. In that case, it will be just a "small" problem... but a problem nonetheless in some cases.
    If only all of lifes problems could be solved so easily... woohoo!!!??
    - TK (Oops... only a 2-letter nick...)

  • 12/30  12:31pm   BBC Radio in Great Britain is reporting that computer use in the classroom may be harmful to education. A quote from the introduction:
    Yet disturbing evidence is emerging that computers may harm, rather than help, educational progress. There is still much debate among even the most enthusiastic supporters of high technology about how computers can best be used.
    A transcript of the program is on-line.
    - Wm.

  • 12/30  12:15pm   SW, I can remember, years ago, waking to 4 inches of "partly cloudy" on the ground. Those old enough to remember might think back to good 'ol Don Kent with his sliding chalkboards and "look out the window" forecasts. Amazingly enough, there's a striking similarity in accuracy of forecast when comparing those chalkboards to the satellites and technology available to the weather prognosticators today. Case in point... this past Christmas Day, while the local weather wizards were predicting 10-15 inches of the white stuff in our area, the Weather Channel was predicting 3-6 inches... go figure.
    Who was closer?
    - TK

  • 12/30  12:11pm   There must be another JW in town, cause I didn't write that last one, good point, but this JW did not write it.
    - JW
    [That's correct, this is another JW who hasn't posted before. Which raises the question, how should I handle duplicates? - Wm.]

  • 12/29  4:39pm   As long as you have paid your taxes, you are allowed to keep cars that are your personal collection. After all, this is America and we do have the right to enjoy our good stuff.
    - JW

  • 12/29  1:01am   Can anyone tell me about the future of Norfolk airport ? I recently discovered a web site claiming it has been recomissioned as an "Air Park" featuring 26 home sites with guest cottages ect...
    - DM

  • 12/28  9:42pm   To: SW - Excellent (and accurate) formula for predicting New England weather. The high-priced TV forecasters might do well to try using it. With all of their sophisticated computer models and Doppler weather radar, they still can't get it right. I'd love to have a job where I can be wrong 90 percent of the time and still get a 6-figure income. Amazing!
    - RP

  • 12/28  4:13pm   Living in New England can be tough when it comes to winter. Especially when it comes to snowfall predictions from the weather stations. So here are the formulas for getting accurate snowfall predictions.
    Take the snowfall amount they say we are going to get and divide that in half, then [subtract] 2 additional inches - that will get you the correct amount. Now, whenever they predict anything under 3 inches, double that then add 2. Flurries usually mean rain.
    - SW

  • 12/28  4:11pm   Can someone recommend a snowplow service for my driveway? Thanks,
    - PR

  • 12/27  10:53pm   We had a good old snow storm. I just want to say thanks to the highway department; [you] did a great job. Now fix up the plows and get ready for the next one. Thanks,
    - KC

  • 12/27  10:49pm   JT: I guess I'm talking about the motorhomes and campers, they took up much of your comment. I think you're allowed one unregisted vehicle on your property.
    - JW

  • 12/26  8:17pm   To JW... I know what you're saying. But, by the same token, if you know of someone who likes to look at smashed-up, undrivable cars, please let me know...
    - JT

  • 12/26  7:46am   JT, you know the saying, ``One man's eyesore ...''
    - JW

  • 12/25  5:15pm   Try the old landfill on Medway Branch. It is right across from the Highway Dept.
    - TB

  • 12/25  10:24am   Does anyone know of good sledding places in the area for a boy, 5 years old?
    - CPL

  • 12/24  5:08pm   Merry Christmas to all in the tiny town of Norfolk!
    - CF

  • 12/24  7:29am   Re: 12/23 12:21pm Does anyone know the town's laws on junk cars ...
    Check with the Building Inspector phone 508 528-5088. The staff in the Building Inspector's office will tell you how to file a complaint. The building inspector is the zoning enforcement officer. There is a copy of the zoning bylaws at the Library. At some point in the future the zoning bylaws may be available at the Town website.
    - AN

  • 12/23  12:21pm   Does anyone know the town's laws on junk cars allowed on a lot? Also, are there any rules about parking motor homes/campers on a lot? In particular, if someone has one parked year-round, full-time and someone is living in it! Please advise. We have lots of eyesores in our neighborhood, and some of us would like to get the place cleaned up! Thank you for any help you can provide.
    - JT

  • 12/23  12:20pm   To DM - are you the guy who walks around saying "can you hear me now?" :)
    - MJD

  • 12/22  4:45pm   We saw the luckiest squirrel today. We were driving south on 95 when this squirrel darted out from the median and tried to race across three lanes of traffic to reach the other side. Half-way across the first lane it paused - the implausibility of beating three cars, one in each lane, must have started to sink in. So it turned, raced back two feet. Too far! Stopped again, about-faced, sprang forward, but too late, oh no!!
    No bump? In the rear-view mirror I saw it continue the dash, after having paused long enough for my car to pass overhead, just to halt abruptly to avoid running under the car in the middle lane. The car barely missed it, then the wind in the wake of the cars swept it off its feet! I saw it flip into the air, then scrabble with all four legs and tail, hoverig one foot off the ground, twisting this way and that to keep itself aligned head-up and legs-down, maintaining its direction. And when it landed, it landed on its feet, running!
    It was a very very long three seconds. Merry Christmas, squirrel.
    - AR

  • 12/22  4:43pm   Happy Winter Solstice! Tonight is the shortest day of winter. From tomorrow on, days will be getting longer again, until Summer Solstice, when the cycle starts again.
    - Wm.

  • 12/21  2:14pm   To LAM. The grange pancake breakfast cost for children was $3.00.
    - KF

  • 12/19  10:13pm   The 2003 Little League and Babe Ruth Registration will be held Saturday, January 4th and the 11th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. at the Freeman-Centennial School MacBride Auditorium information is available on their web site @ norfolkbaseball.com.
    The Next General Meeting of Norfolk Baseball will be January 5th at 7:00 p.m. at the Norfolk Library.
    - PMC

  • 12/19  3:12pm   LAM: If you want an answer from a town official, I suggest that you address your request to [Town Hall]. For instance, the Town Administrator, Dr. Markel, knows a lot about town business. According to the web page for the town administrator, Dr. Markel's phone number is: (508)528-1408 and e-mail is markel@virtualnorfolk.org Check the town web page for office hours. [...]
    - AN
    [I believe there was a proposed bylaw that would have restricted the removal from town of excavated soil, but it was not voted in. Checking with Town Hall is a good idea, however; you'll find the staff knowledgeable and friendly - Wm.]

  • 12/19  3:03pm   Town Hall has a new "lock box" system for collecting remittances; here is the announcement on their web page.
    - AN

  • 12/19  2:38pm   To SF and MJD regarding cell phones. I live in Norfolk and keeping tabs on the cell industry is what I do for a living. I can say from both professional and personal experience that Verizon and Nextel have the best coverage in Norfolk. T-Mobile is by far the worst coverage in Norfolk and the greater Boston area, followed closely by Sprint. Regards,
    - DM

  • 12/18  9:55pm   To SF re: cell phone - we had Cingular and Norfolk was a dead zone. Switched to NEXTEL, no problems. Really clear and no trouble with dead spots.
    - MJD

  • 12/18  11:19am   Cahalane Real Estate office collects for toys for tots and they do take care of Norfolk Families.
    - LAM

  • 12/18  11:18am   Is there no town official that can answer my question about the loam at KP North? Still waiting for a reply.
    - LAM

  • 12/18  11:16am   To SF - I have had a cell phone for a least 8 years and having had many dicussions with friends and colleagues about the many different plans. The phone service that we have had the best luck with Verizon. Even if the tower is built by someone else your Verizon or any other service will work through that tower.
    Norfolk used to have no service in alot of areas; now there really isn't anywhere that I have trouble with reception or in the surrounding areas except Dover. No phone service works there because they won't allow a tower in their town. I have a plan that covers the wole East Coast because that's where I travel the most, and have really never had no reception except in a couple of places in the Carolinas which were in the midddle of nowhere.
    - LAM

  • 12/18  11:15am   Pancake Breakfast - Dec. 21st - at the Grange on rte. 115 (Rockwood Rd.) - Before you go out to do that last minute shopping Christmas shopping, come have a hearty breakfast of 3 pancakes, 2 sausages, juice and coffee for a donation of $4.00. Children $2.00. Come and have your picture taken with Santa Claus. Come and meet your neighbors! Look forward to seeing you there!!
    - LAM

  • 12/18  9:34am   To SF - re: cell phones.  I have had through various jobs Cingular, AT&T, Sprint and Nextel.  I can say without a doubt Sprint was the worst.  I could hardly ever receive or send a call in Norfolk (and other areas).  AT&T was slightly better, but still bad.  Cingular was decent.  I could at least accept and make calls, but I still had trouble at times.  In October I switched to Nextel and I have not had one problem with the phone in this area.  My signal is very strong and I never miss a call.  Hope this helps, even though I did not talk about T-Mobile.
    - PD

  • 12/17  8:00pm   From the Town Hall Page: The Board of Selectmen will hold a Special Town Meeting on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 7:30 p.m. at King Philip High School, in Wrentham. The Warrant is open, and the Board of Selectmen is accepting articles.
    - Wm.

  • 12/17  9:15am   Thanks KM (re: firewood): Actually, I am awaiting a delivery from them (Hultman) as we speak. I used them two years ago and the wood was good quality. Last year they were sold out and this year, they've been so busy, it took them awhile to return my call. Anyways, it's on its way and thank you for the advice.
    - JM

  • 12/17  9:15am   Did folks see the interesting article in the Globe Sunday about our own Daniel Winslow? He was chosen as Mitt Romney's chief legal counsel! Congratulations to Judge Winslow.
    The story also mentioned the bombing of Winslow's home back in 1990 - allegedly by a developer who didn't like Winslow's decisions as a planning board chairman. Let's hope that we never see that kind of thing again in our town.
    -DAF

  • 12/17  8:55am   OK, my old analog cellphone is about dead and I need to (gulp!) think about replacing it with a new and improved (?) digital phone. My question is what service provider is the best in Norfolk and surrounding towns and are you happy with them? Specifically, I was wondering if T-Mobile (aka VoiceStream/OmniPoint) is any good since they are the one who registered (or plan) the antenna on the water tower and on the Franklin line at the Acorn Animal Hospital.
    - SF

  • 12/14  9:50pm   The Water Commissioners were advertising for a Water Superintendent and a Water Assistant. Was in the Sun Chrono Nov 27.
    - JO
    [Any developments on that front? - Wm.]

  • 12/12  10:21am   I was wondering where the construction company for the KP north are taking the loam they are taking out of the front of the school? I hope to the back or somewhere else in Norfolk as I believe it to be true that loam that is not purchased must stay in town.
    - LAM

  • 12/11  4:59pm   The Norfolk Public School kitchens are run by loving and caring mothers, mostly from Norfolk. They have children attending the schools and some of their children have left and they still continue to provide for our children. They take time out of their day to be with our children. There is a possibility that a food service management company will come into the school and replace these mothers. Having volunteered for lunch duty at the elementry schools and I'm sure other parents will agree, that these ladies work hard to provide our children with a good lunch. They also know most of the children by name. Our children mean something to these ladies. Would they mean something to a food service company other than giving them lunch? I can't imagine so. How do parents feel about this? Remember these ladies provide a good service to our children. Please let Marcia Lukon, school superintendent, know that these ladies do a good job and it would be ashame to lose these caring mothers to an outside company.
    - Name Withheld by Request

  • 12/11  12:01am   The holidays are almost upon us, and it's sure quieted down the forum. There are still about 300 daily visits to the page, but traffic is a trickle. So here I am, back to my old routine, writing my own posts :-)
    I can't get over how beautiful this winter is shaping up to be. It's been lovely white for days now, temperatures chilly enough to keep the snow from melting, nippy enough at night to feel on every inhale.
    Sunday was so pretty and so warm, I couldn't resist going out for a short motorcycle ride. I didn't see any other riders out there, but I did get several smiles and nods of approval from passers-by ;-)
    - Wm.

  • 12/10  11:34pm   [T]he Federated Church of Norfolk will hold Tuesday evening vesper services during Advent. The 7:00-7:30 pm services will offer a time for meditation and music in preparation for Christmas. [...] On Sunday, December 8, the Church's Music Ministry will present its annual Christmas Concert at 7:00 pm. [...] An Ecumenical Christmas Walk will be held in Norfolk on Sunday, December 22nd from 6:00-8:00 p.m.
    - LD
    [The full holiday schedule is
    on-line here - Wm.]

  • 12/9  1:16pm   I read the article in the Boston Globe about the fees to be paid for the renovations of the King Phillip North Middle School. I have a few thoughts and would entertain any corrections of misconceptions that I may have.
    As the article noted, the BOS ``disagreed about how much Norfolk should charge the King Philip School District in building-inspection fees for a construction project, which means the much higher price tag will remain in place.'' It appears that ``the King Philip School District will have to pay about $260,000 in inspection fees rather than the $37,000 proposed by school officials for the renovation and expansion of the King Philip North Middle School in Norfolk.''
    I winced where the article quotes the BOS as saying ``the $260,000 fee, which is based on size and which uses the standard rate charged for commercial projects, is ''reasonable'' because it represents the town's actual costs and because it's in line with what other communities charge.''
    I believe that if the Town's costs are actually $260,000.00 then the Town of Norfolk should have a certified Building Commissioner (see MGL Chapter 1 43, Section 3) From the regulations - ``Every inspector of buildings, building commissioner or local inspector shall be certified by the board of building regulations and standards in accordance with regulations promulgated by said board [of building regulations].'' A review of the BOARD OF BUILDING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS (BBRS) website http://www.state.ma.us/bbrs/index2.htm documents that neither the Norfolk Building Commissioner nor any staff in the Building Department is certified by the BBRS as is required by state law.
    The Town of Wrentham's building inspector wrentham.ma.us/governme.htm is certified (#92-11-611) www.state.ma.us/bbrs/bocert.PDF as is the building inspector in Plainville (92-11-046). So in light of this finding, should the Town of Wrentham and Plainville have their Building Inspectors sign off on this project[? ...]
    - a WB

  • 12/9  1:15pm   Last month I was in Norfolk for the first time with 4 other friends to see a missionary family, with 6 children, I first met in Novgorod, Russia back in June. The reason for the visit was to bring support and friendship to 3 Russians who are here for up to 9 months and living with this family. A little 12 yr old girl came to Boston to get a leg surgery along with her mother and translater. It was a great visit to your town and would like to return. We ate at Basil's and it was good food. Loved the authentic New England clam chowder! Lovely state.
    - DPW, Hiddenite, NC

  • 12/9  1:06pm   To JM, re: firewood - We just got a delivery of great firewood from Carl Hultman Landscaping (in Norwood) -- 781-762-6528; it took a couple of weeks to fit us into the delivery schedule, but they said they're happy to deliver to Norfolk.
    - KM

  • 12/8  4:21pm   At 2 PM Sunday, December 15, students in the King Philip music program will present a Chamber Recital in the auditorium of the King Philip North School in Norfolk. The recital will feature solo and ensemble pieces from the classical repertory.
    - BW

  • 12/8  4:20pm   Norfolk Lions Youth Soccer needs individuals, at least 14 years old to referee games during the Spring 2003 soccer season. All games are played on Sunday afternoons in Norfolk during the 8 week season. Training will be provided. This is a paying position - a great way to have fun and earn some extra money! For more information, contact Helen at 508-520-0163.
    - HK

  • 12/8  4:19pm   The following positions are presently open on the Norfolk Lions Youth Soccer Board; Field Manager, Nets & Goals Manager, Referee Manager, U5 Manager, U7 Manager. This is a great opportunity to become more involved in your childs soccer experience. If you are interested in filling any one of these positions, contact Helen at 508-520-0163 for more information.
    - HK

  • 12/7  9:11am   We learned that the truck route on King Street is for the Middle School construction. The contractors have agreed to approach the school from the Union Street end of King Street and not the westerly end for safety purposes. These were agreed at a meeting on October 25, 2002 between the principals (not at a Selectmen's meeting). There were also several other conditions such as trucking hours etc. agreed at that meeting.
    There is a six page document dated October 29, 2002 Titled "Temporary Curb Cut/Access Permit King Philip North Junior High School" written by Butch Vito available at the Selectmen's Office summarizing the conditions of the access permit.
    - Wm.

  • 12/6  10:40am   Students in the Norfolk Elementary schools can thank their local businesses the next time they need to look up a word in the dictionary. Through the support and generosity of 14 companies and small businesses in town, new special edition dictionaries were purchased at the recent Scholastic Book Fair, sponsored by the Norfolk TPA.
    In partnering with the H.Olive Day and Freeman-Centennial schools, these merchants made a significant contribution in promoting literacy at the primary school level. Dictionaries help children to communicate effectively and build their vocabularies.
    The Norfolk TPA would like to express their appreciation to the following for their support; BREO, Inc., C.A. Millner Calligraphy, COAN Inc., Denise's Dance Academy, Dunkin Donuts, Dunn McKenzie Inc., Elite Food Company Inc., Kaleidoscope Kids, Kathy Ryan Dance Studio, Ripley Greene Chiropractic Wellness, and Sundance Hair Studio.
    - LD

  • 12/6  10:34am   [Correction:] Please note that the [5th Annual Valentine's Dinner Dance and Silent Auction] is on Saturday Feb. 8th, not the 9th.
    - TS

  • 12/6  10:31am   To JM - We don't use firewood so I'm not an expert however I have noticed signs at Jane & Paul's Farm for firewood.
    - BS

  • 12/5  5:34pm   Does anyone have a good recommendation for firewood? I know, I know, I should have ordered before now... I need 1 cord at a reasonable price, delivered.
    - JM

  • 12/5  5:33pm   Is there a town-run "Toys for Tots" program this year? In the past, the Fire Department was a drop-off site, but I haven't heard of one this year. I'd like to find one which takes care of Norfolk families first. Thanks.
    - RP

  • 12/5  12:15am   To SM: Contact Laurie Sullivan, Special Education Dept at the H. Olive Day School. She will be able to give you information about the lottery. I believe that the lottery is done in March or April and then there is an interview thereafter. As my child went in with special needs (speech) I didn't go through all that. Good luck!
    - AL

  • 12/4  2:43pm   To SM: You can contact Pam Mele, director and owner of the Norfolk Children's School at (508) 528-1970. It's located right down the road from the Federated Church at 23 Union Street.
    - KO

  • 12/4  11:39am   To AL: Could you give more information on the Norfolk Children's School? Where is it located and how can I contact someone there? I too have a child who will miss the kindergarten cut-off! Also, do you know when I can sign my child up for the lottery at the H. Olive Day integrated preschool program? Thanks!
    - SM

  • 12/3  5:10pm   To MJD: I have the distinction of having had children at all three preschools in town and I can tell you that there isn't a bad one among them! My two oldest children went to the Norfolk Cooperative Preschool and in fact Sue Skinner was my oldest's teacher! It's a wonderful place and the parents are very involved; in fact, if you really want a "hands-off" type of school you may want to reconsider. Parents can serve on the board and have the option of working in the classroom on a regular basis. The classrooms are sunny and large and although I don't know the teachers there now, I was very happy with the ones my children had.
    My youngest went two years to the H Olive Day Preschool and I just can't say enough about the quality of education and the availability of services available to the children there. It was just over the top and I would recommend it to anyone. The teachers there are just fantastic. Do put your child's name in for the lottery - you may get it and if you do, grab it! The curriculum is a bit more structured and the second year they work on teaching the kids to write their names and gear them up for kindergarten. You can also work in the classroom, although since the ratio is usually about 1 teacher to 4 students you may feel a bit redundant!
    Now my youngest is at the Norfolk Children's School (he missed the cutoff for kindergarten). We decided that a change after two years of the same teacher would be good. We are also very happy with this school. They have 2, 3 and 5 day programs based on age (HOD is a 3 day program for both years). It is much more of a child directed curriculum, and again, the teachers are wonderful as is the director of the school, Pam Mele. Again, you can work in the classroom.
    So, in sum, you won't go wrong with any of the three. I also know people who have sent their children to the Dean College program and to the Montessori program and have been very happy. Just don't delay - all the programs fill up very quickly - as in the day they open for registration! Good luck!
    - AL

  • 12/3  5:10pm   To MJD: I am also new to town (so new that I'm not quite here yet - still waiting for our house to be finished!) but have done lots of research on preschools in the area. The Federated Church has a terrific co-op program and I'm hoping to get both my preschoolers in there for next fall - often a waiting list, but registration is in January! Sue Skinner is the director and she can give you all the details. There is also a home-based program on Noon Hill Ave. (I believe Sue Skinner can give you the name and number) which seems nice but I haven't actually been there. I called the H. Olive Day school directly (ask for the Special Ed department - they deal with the preschoolers) and they furnished me with lots of information on how to be included in the lottery (preschoolers are selected by a large lottery - good luck!) but I didn't learn too much about the program. Another option which isn't too far from Norfolk is the Medfield Children's Center at the Pleasant Street Church. They are WONDERFUL there and the program is superb. Had my son enrolled there for last fall but had to decline as we weren't moving when I'd hoped to. I know several people who have children there and they are extremely pleased. Hope this helps! Good luck and maybe we'll run into one another this fall!
    - SM

  • 12/3  11:03am   Fairly new to town, looking for a pre-school for September. I keep hearing about the Federated Church co-op and the one at H. Olive Day. How do I get more info and are there others to consider. Would like it in Norfolk if at all possible. Maybe some of you could share your expereinces, good and bad on this topic.
    - MJD

  • 12/3  10:27am   I was wondering if anyone had any information regarding the new road sign posted on King St near the Union St entrance. It is marked "Truck Route", which truck route? and to where? Is it for deliveries to the school? Just wondering as I haven't seen many trucks running down King St..
    - PK
    [Could this be in connection with some new development in the area? - Wm.]

  • 12/3  9:10am   To AC, take a look at http://www.norfolknet.com/norfolkserve/ to see if this is something you and your son would be interested in.  Volunteers are always needed.  Volunteer information can be found on that site.  You could also call Jan Moore at the Housing Authority to see if anyone at Hillcrest Village needs any assistance, especially now during the holiday season.  Happy Holidays.
    - PD

  • 12/2  10:32pm   Tickets for the Norfolk Community League (NCL)'s 5th Annual Valentine's Dinner Dance and Silent Auction are going on sale December 15th. The Dinner Dance will be held on Saturday, February 8th at Luciano's Lake Pearl in Wrentham from 6:30pm until midnight. [Read more ...]
    - TS

  • 12/2  10:31pm   The Norfolk Community League is having a 5K Jingle Bell Run and 1/4 mile Kids Run immediately following the Santa Breakfast on Saturday, December 14th at the H. Olive Day Elementary School on Main Street in Norfolk. The 3.1 mile Fun Run will begin at 11 AM and the Kids Races will begin at 11:45 AM. [For more information, click to this page]
    - CH

  • 12/2  8:09pm   Does anyone know of any upcoming holiday concerts around our area? (other than the KP Pops concert next weekend). I recall going to a holiday concert that was perfect for kids at a school in Franklin a couple of years ago, but I can't seem to find any on-line links to holiday events in the area this year. Thanks
    - VR

  • 12/1  10:39pm   I want to get my 17 year old son involved in some community service activity, preferably in Norfolk but not limited to. He is wonderful with children. Are there any shelters in the area who would like someone to entertain kids? We would also (I would like to join him) be interested in elderly services or food pantries. I am open to all suggestions. I'm counting on the good hearts in Norfolk to give us some ideas. Thanks.
    - AC

  • 11/29  8:38pm   At 7 PM Saturday a week from now, the King Philip will present its annual Winter Pops Concert. The concert will feature the Chorus, the Concert Band, the Symphony Band, the Percussion Ensemble and the Marching Band in a concert performance of Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 5 in the colorfully decorated Field House of King Philip Regional High School. The doors will open at 6 PM to allow concertgoers to sample the culinary creations and beverages which are a traditional highlight of the King Philip Pops Concert.
    [More info ...]
    - BW

  • 11/29  4:09pm   To MSH - Never say Never. There is a comprehensive, detailed discussion about Norfolk's roads with Butch Vito, Norfolk's Highway Superintendent, being aired right now (3:30pm) on channel 22. Most likely many of your questions and suspicions will be answered if you tune in to watch. It will be on all the rest of this week and next. You might learn a few things that will surprise you.
    There are lots of other good and informative programing on channel 22 as well as channel 8. Both channels are Norfolk's Public Access Channels and very active and useful (If I don't say so myself.) I hope you tune in and find it helpful.
    - Paul Guertin, NCTV Station Manager
    PS You can find the complete Channel 8 and 22 schedule right here on Norfolknet. Just click on NCTV Schedule on the left side of the home page.
    [The NCTV programming schedule is made available courtesy of Paul Guertin, NCTV station manager. Thanks, Paul! - Wm.]

  • 11/29  1:13pm   A useful website for Cable Television viewers is: [this one] where by filling in your zip code you can get a list of cable channels, a hotlink to the station being broadcast, and a brief description of the content. Available channels vary depending on your subscription.
    The URL for Zip 02056 is: [here]. A printable version for Zip 02056 is available, without the hotlinks, at: [here].
    - AN

  • 11/29  12:40pm   Re: suggest an internet provider: The local cable provider is AT&T. Although AT&T is in the process of merging with Comcast, the AT&T signup website is still the one to use, and you can sign up for cable as well as Internet access through this site: www.attbroadband.com/services/homepage.jhtml, or you may telephone AT&T at 1-888-633-4266, as listed in the yellow pages under Internet Svces.
    If you wish to sign up with a dialup ISP, you can get a CD for the desired ISP (MSN, AOL, etc.) at a local computer store such as CompUSA or Best Buy, or look in the Yellow Pages under Internet Svces for a local ISP.
    Unfortunately, DSL is not available, according to a check 11/29 at www.verizon.net.
    - AN

  • 11/29  11:43am   Norfolk Lions' Youth Soccer is now accepting registration for the spring 2003 season. Registration forms are available in the lobby of the Norfolk Public Library or on norfolklionssoccer.com. Registration deadline is March 1, 2003. For more information, contact Helen at 508-520-0163.
    - HK

  • 11/29  11:42am   The King Philip Men's -Over 30- Softball League is now accepting registration for the 2003 season. Games, which are ASA sanctioned, are slow pitch and will be played at Sweatt Fields in Wrentham. Early registration ends on January 1, 2003. Registration deadline is March 1st. Registration forms may be picked up in the library of the Norfolk Public Library. For more information contact League President, Craig K. at 508-520-0163 or email kpsoftball@gis.net
    - CK

  • 11/29  11:40am   ;Just wanted to ask if anyone could suggest an internet provider for me. I'm new to Norfolk and live by the police station... can't seem to find a cable provider though... anyone know where i can turn? Thanks!!
    - MM

    Thanksgiving Day, 2002, 66K

  • 11/27  11:11pm   Turkey day! Happy Thanksgiving!

  • 11/27  12:10pm   Oh, the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful... Let it snow... Let it snow... Let it snow. Ah, did I say that out loud?
    - JW
    [You did, and it's very pretty, too! Looking at it, it's hard to believe that just yesterday I rode the motorcycle in to work - Wm.]

  • 11/26  11:50pm   TO CF: You will never find information on road work because the money to repair the roads can be used for other projects and is used this way quite often.
    - MSH

  • 11/26  4:21pm   Why cant I find any info about what Norfolk is doing now and in the future. I checked Norfolk's web site for road work and didn't find anything. It looks like the (town) not the residents are hiding some thing from the people. Other town web sites tell the people what road work is going to go on. We wanted to move into Norfolk but after looking into it and how quiet the Town Hall is about their business and not telling the people anything. People at a local restaurant told me about a rotary going in the center when asked the town they stated road work. [...]
    - CF
    [We don't normally post messages from non-residents, but the reminder about relevant, timely information being made available on-line is a valid one. In their defense, the town hall page is fairly new, and perhaps not yet a primary means of communication - Wm.]

  • 11/26  4:15pm   To KM: Rocky's Autobody on Route 115 (right before 1A). These folks are a local treasure. I have used them many times and have never been disappointed. They do most types of repair and maintenance work, in addition to their main function which is body work
    - TEM

  • 11/26  11:38am   Thank you, TW and AN, for your info on Lake St.
    - HPK

  • 11/26  9:09am   Serve new England now has a few new prices and new packages. Serve also now accepts orders on-line. Payment may be made in the form of an e-check or credit card.
    Learn more details here or on our web page.
    - Roselle Dull, Norfolk Serve

  • 11/26  8:53am   After demanding judging in the Southeastern District Auditions last Saturday, 12 King Philip music students won invitations to participate in the Southeastern District Concert Festival at Bridgewater State College January 10 and 11, with a Festival Concert for the public 2 PM Saturday, January 11, 2003.
    Students who will perform at the MMEA District Festival are Sondria Hall, soprano, chorus, and all in the band: Kara Davey, second clarinet, Michael Butler, Jennifer St. Amand, and Nicole Hoyceanyls, all third trumpet; Charles Sherwin, second trombone; and Sebastian Zervos, tenor saxophone.
    Five King Philip students were chosen for the MMEA State Auditions, in addition to performing at the District Festival: Matthew Murphy, bass, chorus; Emily Loughlin, bass clarinet, band; Jeff Jacobson, first French horn, orchestra; Erik Saras, bass trombone, orchestra; and Stephen Dacko, drum set, jazz band.
    - BW

  • 11/26  8:50am   Many Thanks to RP for the NCTV plug. Not only is there an interesting program with Highway Supt. Butch Vito describing the town's road projects, but members of the Norfolk School Committee and Supt. Marcia Lukon answer some serious questions on another Conversation Corner edition being aired this week and next. Plus there is an informative discussion with Town Administrator Dr. Robert Markel regarding issues ranging from the early retirement of some town employees to age restricted housing. These programs, and many others like it, are part of the channel 22 programing that complement the weekly live showing of the Board of Health and the Board of Selectmen. If you are also interested in what is happening in town regarding Pop Warner football; school trips to (i.e.) Plimoth Plantation; The Hockey Show, a great show produced by Paul Altmeyer a Norfolk resident; trips to far away lands; the Army Newswatch; or Cooking Greek food with Georgia or learning how to make holiday breads and cookies with Liz Davey then tune in to channel 8, Norfolk's Public Interest station.
    The good news is that anyone from Norfolk has access to all the NCTV equipment and expertise so that you can produce your own show. Just call me at 508-384-4448 and I'll give you the details. So, stay tuned.
    - Paul Guertin, NCTV Station Manager

  • 11/26  8:49am   Girard's Bistro (508-520-1511) is located at 447 East Central Street in Franklin. It is open Tue through Sat 5:00-9:00 PM. Weekend seatings on Fri and Sat are at 6:00, 6:30, 8:00 and 8:30 PM. They will be closed from 11/26/02 through 11/28/02.
    - BD

  • 11/26  8:48am   Can anyone recommend a good and honest auto mechanic in the Norfolk/Medfield/Millis area. If possible, someone that specializes in Jeeps. Thanks.
    - KM

  • 11/25  2:02pm   To the curious HPK - Here is my limited history of Lake Street. I believe most of the land on the street was part of the Cress Brook Farm. The farmhouse( the Samuel Dunton House) is mentioned and discussed further at the Town of Norfolk Historical Commission website. As far as why the road is not paved the whole way, I'm not quite sure but I have been told that if it was paved, the old tree in front of the farmhouse would not survive and that the tree has historical significance. I have also heard it is a private way. Being a resident of the street, I for one, like the fact that it isn't paved...if you drive too fast, you risk loosing your transmission!! Hope this helps a bit.
    - TW

  • 11/25  2:01pm   Re: 11/24 10:22pm - Lake Street - Does the colonial house at the pond have any historical significance?
    Check the webpage of the Historical Commission and look for structures on Lake Street.
    - AN

  • 11/25  12:19pm   To K.C.: Google is your friend. See: http://chefmoz.org/United_States/MA/Franklin/Girard's_Bistro954312383.html
    - AL

  • 11/24  10:22pm   Does anyone know the history, if any, behind Lake Street? Why is only part of the street paved? Does the colonial house at the pond have any historical significance?
    - HPK, just curious

  • 11/24  10:15pm   To RS - you told us about Girard's Bistro, but did not tell us where it is. Thanks,
    - K.C.

  • 11/23  7:35pm   Our town cable station, NCTV Channel 22, has been broadcasting a very informative interview with Highway Superintendent Butch Vito explaining with charts and video the road changes going on in town center and beyond. Tune in to learn the difference between a "Rotary" and a "Roundabout". I was surprised to learn that sidewalks will be installed from the center along Rt. 115 all the way to the Lafayette House and that the railroad abutments near Everett Street will be removed. Check out the broadcast schedule <here>
    - RP

  • 11/23  7:33pm   Serve New England, Norfolk Serve's parent company, now takes orders online in their online store. Go to servenewengland.org and click on the online store; you may pay with credit cards and e checks. Being that the economy is rough right now i'm sure this will be a big help to those who do not wish to be restricted to cash payment only. Hope to have many new orders for the Christmas season.
    - Roselle Dull, Norfolk Serve

  • 11/23  7:29pm   Just wanted to pass along the sad news that Einar Elbert died this week. He was a dispatcher for the Norfolk Police and Fire Dept. for many years. If someone out there knows a bit of his history, please share. He was a very nice man and had quite a history, but not knowing the ins and outs of it, I don't want to try to tell it. He went back to his home country, Sweden, a few years ago. We have missed him since then and mourn his passing.
    - JW

  • 11/22  3:58pm   If you're looking for a place to take your out of town guests for Thanksgiving, try the Horse and Carriage on 115 and Dedham Street. I have lived in Norfolk for 5 yrs and we always take friends and family there for dinner when we have visitors. Their prime rib is excellent, as well as their chicken parm, and my husband being the seafood guru loves their seafood dishes. The atmosphere is very casual,the employees are extremely nice and very friendly. I suggest making a reservation for Thanksgiving, though, because they are always pretty busy; but on a holiday i'm sure they'll be swamped.
    - RD

  • 11/22  9:45am   Can someone tell me how a town worker can save up NINE WEEKS vacation - maybe five weeks after 20 years, but nine weeks? I don't think so. Maybe we should not go there. Right, Jack?
    - KC
    [Save up, as in accumulate total, or get yearly? - Wm.]

  • 11/21  4:59pm   I am looking to hire someone to remove the leaves from my lawn. Any recommendations? Thanks!
    - EB

  • 11/20  5:57pm, 11/21 9:00am   Kick off the holiday season at the annual Norfolk Community League Santa Breakfast! Join NCL on Saturday, December 14th from 9-11 AM at the H. Olive Day School on Main St. for breakfast with Santa and Mrs. Claus. [...] [ m o r e . . . ]
    Following Breakfast with Santa is a 5K Jingle Bell Run and 1/4 Kids Run. The 3.1 mile Fun Run will begin at 11AM and the kids race begins at 11:45. [...] [ m o r e . . . ]
    - GH

  • 11/20  11:39am   It seems that the only way to know about how much lead is in your house's drinking water is to have it tested. The MWRA has a list of certified labs that can do the test (costs between $15 and $40) at [on this list]
    - DAF

  • 11/20  9:20am   I suggest James' Roadside Cafe in Wrentham, Phone: (508) 384-0089. The name is deceptive, because the food is high end and fantastic, yet the atmosphere is casual. Good wines, desserts etc.
    - PR

  • 11/19  4:28pm   I have often wondered about the Lafayette House (restaurant) on Route 1, but have yet to try it. Seems like a decent place to bring out-of-towners over the holidays. Anybody have good (or bad) experiences with them?
    - TEM

  • 11/19  2:43pm   This is what I learned from the town Water Department regarding the lead and brown water issues.
    The lead notice to public water users was triggered following a round of testing of water from 35 houses in Norfolk. This testing, which was conducted in late August 2002, is required by the DEP for houses representing construction before 1986, when lead solder was used in pipes. Of the 35 houses, five (on King, Maple, Ridge, and Union) had lead concentrations at or above the drinking water standard of 0.015 mg/L. According to the Water Department, this represents lead levels associated with the internal plumbing, and is not indicative of lead in the public water source. I did not obtain results for lead in well or tank samples (i.e. source water samples), but concentrations in the water from the other houses was below standards. For example, lead concentrations in water from 7 houses in the Cape Cod Estates area (which had brown water this past weekend) ranged from 0.002 to 0.009 mg/L, well below the 0.015 mg/L standard.
    The brown water, according to the Water Department, is caused by manganese that builds up in the pipes. The manganese level measured during routine testing of the town wells in March ranged from 0.005 (Spruce Road Well) to 0.083 mg/L (Gold Street well). There are no health-based standards for manganese, but the Secondary Maximum Contaminant Level is 0.05 [the Secondary Max. Contaminant Levels are standards developed to protect the aesthetic qualities of drinking water and are not health based and are not legally enforceable]. There is no testing of the water during "brown water" episodes, but the Water Department will arrange for hydrant flushing if the water is unusually dark or the episode unusually long.
    I couldn't get a great deal of information about future plans. Since the lead is not considered a source water problem, there are no proposed changes to address it. The manganese is being gradually addressed by adding 'loops' to the water system throughout town to reduce sediment build-up in pipes.
    - VR

  • 11/19  2:41pm   Ditto on Girard's as an excellent choice of restaurant. If you don't mind driving a little ways, The Tavern at the Sherborn Inn is also great. Both places have excellent food. The service at Girard's is wonderful. You can wear casual attire and have a 5 star meal. Enjoy.
    - ML

  • 11/19  2:38pm   TO RS: As you noted in your post - "I wonder when they were notified by the EPA that the water system had exceeded the maximum lead contaminant levels. Also, I'd like to know more specifically about the program the town has in place to meeting the requirements of the lead regulation."
    For clarification purposes, the EPA doesn't notify anyone about the lead levels. The purpose of having licensed operators is to conduct the required weekly, monthly, yearly sampling for the water supply system. The established levels for lead in drinking water has been set by the EPA and DEP (as you noted the maximum contaminant level (MCL) ). It is the responsibility of the operators to notify those users of an exceedance of an MCL. I don't have the regulations at my finger tips, but the notice about lead sent out by the water department is required under section 310 CMR 22.16 under what is know as the "Lead and Copper Rule" (the Action Level for lead is 0.015 milligrams per liter or parts per million (mg/L), for copper is 1.3 mg/L). The recent notice about lead is required under a fairly new program, where specific exceedances of MCL's or other drinking water standards require public notice. The new program "ranks" a contaminant and the type of follow up to be conducted.
    As for the lead regulation program, this is from the Water Department page: "What is the pH of the water? Gold Street Well 6.50, and Spruce Road Well 5.88. Adjusted to 7.00 with KOH (liquid Potassium Hydroxide 45%)." This chemical addition is know as corrosion control. By raising the pH of the water to neutral there is less opportunity for lead to be leached off the piping, fittings, etc.
    As for a checks and balance, the Town is required to report exceedances to the DEP, provide other periodic reports during the year, and also provide an annual statement called the Consumer Confidence Report. This process is not complex, just time consuming and somewhat detailed oriented.
    - AB

  • 11/19  12:28pm   To GF: I agree with MP - Girard's Bistro is great. We have brought out-of-town family to Girard's often and everyone enjoyed it tremendously.
    - RS

  • 11/19  12:27pm   To AN: Well said; I wonder if the water dept. knows the 5 Ps? Prior Planning Prevents P... Poor Performance.
    - MC

  • 11/19  9:37am   My neighbors and I have been having a brown and/or green tint to the water for some time now and we all connected it with lead problems. [...] I called the town to verify today's brown colored water and was told that a pumping station went down. As a result, I am told the water "backwashes" with sediment which is "safe." Personally, I am troubled by the seemingly ambivalent attitude displayed by the water department. You cannot convince me that sediment is safe or that "...exceeding the maximum contaminant levels in drinking water" is acceptable especially when according to the EPA, "drinking water can make up 20% or more of a person's total exposure to lead" which is especially harmful to young children.
    It appears as though the town has been working on the roadways (possibly installing new water mains??) for some time. I wonder when they were notified by the EPA that the water system had exceeded the maximum lead contaminant levels. Also, I'd like to know more specifically about the program the town has in place to meeting the requirements of the lead regulation.
    - RS

  • 11/19  9:23am   to GF: Girard's Bistro in Franklin is wonderful, great food and excellent service. I would make a reservation. call 508-520-1511.
    - MP

  • 11/19  9:15am   Regarding: 11/18 12:31pm According to the Water Department, the cause of the brown water in our part of town over the weekend was a malfunctioning pump.
    I have seen that reason used several times before. Wouldn't you think that the Water Department would have a procedure whereby they would keep the standby pump gated off, then flush it out to a drain before putting it on-line? Obviously any drain line should be as close as possible to the valves to the main line, to minimize the surface area within the connecting pipe that could rust or store sediment.
    Similarly, have a drain line available to the main pump so that it can be flushed while gated off before returning it to the main line after maintenance or repair.
    It would be interesting to know if they have such equipment and especially, procedures, which could be improved upon as new or different equipment becomes available. Otherwise there will always be dirty water delivered to the mains when a pump is put on line.
    "If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got." (quote attributed to African-American comedienne Moms Mabley.) In this case, we will always get dirty water unless improvements are made.
    We have a right to expect quality control procedures in the public sector just as in the private sector. In the latter, cost and customer satisfaction are perhaps more significant driving forces than in the public sector.
    - AN

  • 11/18  3:50pm   Has anyone heard anything else on what happened to [Bill] Perron?
    - JPM

  • 11/18  3:48pm   GF, Try Luciano's on Route 1 in Foxboro. The food and service is very good. I recommend making reservations in advance.
    - PN

  • 11/18  3:46pm   To GF: One restaurant that we like is the Diamond Grille in Walpole. It has a nice atmosphere. Also, Rossi's in Millis, where we recently went for a dinner after a Friday night wedding. I'd call ahead and ask about the menus for Thanksgiving.
    - CR

  • 11/18  3:37pm   Did I miss a discussion on the issue of the lead notice that was received recently? I was concerned. I did catch some of the discussion about the staffing of the water dept. but I wonder what people think about the lead notice.
    - MJD

  • 11/18  12:31pm   According to the Water Department, the cause of the brown water in our part of town over the weekend was a malfunctioning pump. When the pump went down, a different pump was started up, and that caused the water to get to the main via a different route. What we were seeing was sediment flushed through the system when the new pump kicked in; the person I spoke to said that the water was still safe to use, and that the problem is unrelated to the lead notice.
    - VR

  • 11/18  12:11pm   I would like to know of any good restaurants in the Norfolk area. [suitable for taking people out to dinner during the holidays].
    - GF

  • 11/18  11:32am   To MJD, we had 'very' brown water about two weeks ago during a fire department practice drill. Because they used the hydrants it stirred up the sediment in the lines. I wonder if the town flushes the lines enough? I am also concerned about all these water department notes that have been posted here regarding the absence of licensed water operators coupled with the notice we received last week about high levels of lead. Is the system being monitored enough?
    - SF

  • 11/18  11:31am   MJD, Check with the Water Department. They may be flushing hydrants in your area, and that could cause murky water for a while.
    - TK

  • 11/18  9:16am   Any ideas on why the water from my tap is brown today? Something to do with the rain perhaps? Anyone else?
    - MJD

  • 11/16  1:18pm   Whoops, sorry, hope [you] don't get lost on the way to the Pancake Breakfast now.
    - JW

  • 11/15  11:52am   Re: Grange directions. Alas, Boomer Realty is no more... something about selling that last house to my husband and me made them decide to leave the business three years ago (grin). It's now Prudential Realty.
    - HPK

  • 11/14  5:56pm   The Norfolk Grange is on Rockwood Rd. across from Hillcrest Village, down the street from Boomer Realtor heading into the center on the opposite side of the road. Eat hearty and enjoy.
    - JW

  • 11/14  4:35pm   Where is the Norfolk Grange located? I cant go to the Pancake Breakfast unless I can find it.
    - PR

  • 11/14  11:04am   Greetings! My husband and I are interested in purchasing a 3/4 bed, 2 bath home in a neighborhood in Norfolk. Our price range is between 325K and 400K. We prefer a cape or colonial (less than 20 years old) with a two car garage. We have been working with a realtor for several months, without luck. Wondering if anyone reading this page is contemplating selling! Please email me at cbspeech@aol with any leads! Thanks much!
    - CK

  • 11/13  5:30pm   I hate to open a can of worms again, but does anyone know the outcome of the Planning Board meeting of November 7 with regards to the Littlewood Farm?
    - DAF

  • 11/13  2:09pm   Yes, the dog in the Sun Chronicle today is up for adoption. Other dogs up for adoption as well can be seen at the web page hosted through norfolknet.com [Animal Control Page]. Anyone interested in any of these dogs please contact me at 508 528 3232.
    - Sincerely, Hilary Penlington, Norfolk ACO

  • 11/13  1:17pm   To MR - It is my understanding that the Library no longer can provide passes to the Boston Aquarium due to the high admission cost.
    - ABR

  • 11/13  12:52pm   According to the July 2002 database maintained by the DEP, the Town of Norfolk has 1862 service connections and provides water to 5958. See this web location [ma dwp] and scroll down to the link for Public Water Supply Contacts. The break between a small water supply and a medium water supply is 3300 customers. I spent some time looking through the regulations and guidelines for the staffing requirements for a medium water supplier and found nothing about requiring three staff members. The only required postions for full time personnel are a primary and secondary operator. Periodic inspections by a Cross Connection Surveyor are required for a medium sized system but in this day and age of personnel holding multiple licenses this could also be the one of the operators.
    AB

  • 11/13  10:42am   The Norfolk Cultural Council needs new members. Our primary task is to distribute the arts lottery monies the Council receives from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. This occurs on an annual basis. Beyond that, the Council promotes activities in Norfolk that relate to the arts and humanities. The possibilities are limited only by the imagination and energy of Council Members. Past activities include the Norfolk public sculpture project and art exhibitions and sales. Please consider making a contribution of time and talent to the community of Norfolk. Please join us. For information on applying, contact Shirley B., 508-520-0348 evenings.
    - SB, NCC

  • 11/13  10:39am   Is it true or was the librarian just confused today, does the Norfolk library only have passes to the Mystic CT aquarium and NOT the one in Boston? Doesn't this seem a bit strange? Any info on this would be appreciated.
    - MR

  • 11/12  8:49pm   Anyone wishing to participate in Norfolk serve who wants to pay by credit card may do so on-line at Serve New England .org. My apologies for the Norfolk Serve food menu being August-September; my scanner isn't working.
    - RD

  • 11/12  8:30pm   JMC has a very interesting point regarding the Water Department. There is something wrong when we have a Water Superintendent whose answer to the BOS is "I don't know," and two Water Commissioners that can't even answer a basic question of how many services the Town has. The BOS should look very deeply into what goes on there. Could it be that the question of under staffing has only come up since the Superintendent finally has to do something other than stand outside drinking coffee.
    - ST

  • 11/12  1:22pm   Liked the haunted train ride and thanks to those who put it together. Many clever things, loved the flying witch! Loved the pumpkins and the fog effect. Loved the guy taking the tickets. Thought however that the chainsaw murderer was a little gross and twisted for a kids affair. Hope that they don't repeat that one next year!
    - MJD

  • 11/11  12:34pm   to JK - the website discussing the Airpark has been around for many years. I'm pretty sure it was just an idea. Look at the pricing for housing. I remember seeing the exact same site over 4-5 years ago. The key to this was "Opening sales prices will be $190,000 to 250,000". Those are old prices for Norfolk. As far as the recent work at the airport, it looks like they were just cleaning up brush and such. See [norfolkaeroclub.com/events] email the person that runs site. I'm sure he/she could offer more info.
    - NS

  • 11/11  10:37am   My family and I live right off the Norfolk airport. I was very interested to learn about the airport being re-opened as an "airpark". Being a neighbor to the airport, we knew something was going on because we could see work being done, but we were not notified of any changes (as I think we should have been). And even after work has begun, we have not been told of things to come.
    Anyway, does anyone have any more information on the airpark? When will it be completed? What will it look like? How will people such as myself that live very close be affected? The web site (mentioned in the messages below) said something about 2-3 acre homesites? I take it there is going to be more building in the area? I would really appreciate some more information if anyone has any. Thanks,
    - JK

  • 11/11  10:30am   TEM, Normally, you're correct. The flag is retired each evening at dusk and raised each morning at dawn. Flag etiquette says that should one desire to fly the flag during the nighttime hours, it should be illuminated. The method of illumination is left to those who so desire. A common method is up-lighting installed in the ground around the flag pole (2-3 lights) shining up at the flag.
    Another good source of information regarding the American Flag is usflag.org.
    And another good source is your local Boy Scout or Girl Scout troop... all of whom are supposed to learn some flag etiquette as part of their Scouting experience.
    - TK

  • 11/11  10:29am   Of course I'm not serious about a casino in town (unless, of course, there is proper infrastructure and maybe more public transportation!) On the issue of the Canadian flag ... I have no problem with it flying high. This is the nation, after all, that blessed Boston with Bobby Orr.
    - PA

  • 11/11  10:28am   AL is certainly correct re the flags! I'm afraid too many of us have forgotten the proper protocol to be observed!!
    - JO

  • 11/10  6:40pm   I am thinking about adding a window to my home. Does anyone have someone for this type of home improvement project that they would recommend?
    - NS

  • 11/10  6:40pm   [To TEM] 4 USC 1
    - AL

  • 11/10  6:18pm   To TEM: you can go on American flag. com and get all the info you need, or call the highway dept., they have all that info. Talk to Tom B.
    - KC

  • 11/10  12:04pm   To AL: Thank you for the insight on the appropriate display of the American Flag. I wonder if you might advise us regarding the source of the quoted "Section 7" and whether this same document advises citizens regarding appropriate practices in displaying the Flag. Although I've never been a "flagwaver" myself, it still distresses me how people, however well-intentioned, show an incredible lack of respect in displaying it, in some instances their neglect amounting to desecration. Nailed to trees, draped on old fences, torn, filthy, rain-drenched, etc., etc. In fact, isn't the flag supposed to be taken down each day at dusk and returned at dawn, whether on a pole or not?
    - TEM

  • 11/9  10:51pm   I sure hope that PA wasn't actually serious about a casino at the site of the old airport. That being said, has anyone else seen this link? [Norfolk Air Park] I'm fairly new in town and have no idea if this "airpark" thing is new or old news. Has this already happened?
    - JD

  • 11/8  5:48pm   I noticed this, too. However, flying another country's flag underneath the USA flag is not an honor. From the US Flag code:
    Sec. 7. (g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
    - AL

  • 11/8  11:24pm   Re the Casino discussion - Is it true that each homeowner in Conn. receives about $400 as a result of the presence of Foxwoods? Incidentally, suggest that one read the book "Without Reservation" about the beginning of the Casino - how the proportion of Indian land was determined, etc - I, too, saw something about a further 2 Billion being considered for expansion. Meanwhile in Ma. I understand that Chicopee passed a non-binding resolution for a casino.
    - JO

  • 11/8  12:12pm   Do I understand that there will not be A Veterans Day parade, etc. due to the lack of funds.
    Noticed that the Canadian Flag is on the flagpole at the Town Hill and the office entrance location at Freeman Centennial in honor of late Art Keenan, former Veteran agent. A fitting honor, since Art was a member of the Devils Brigade - a Canadian-US force.
    - JO

  • 11/8  11:14am   The Norfolk Community League and the Norfolk Lions would like to take this opportunity to thank the many wonderful people who helped make the first annual Haunted Train Ride a spectacular success.
    C o n t i n u e d . . .
    - TS

  • 11/7  3:18pm   To MH: Calling revenues generated by casinos as "blood money" is your prerogative. If that's the case, Connecticut's state color should be red!
    I say let's get casinos in the Commonwealth as fast as we can, and open it up to sports wagering as well (that will decrease the massive amounts of money spent in Vegas and with on-line services.) Wouldn't it be something if somewhere in Norfolk (the old airport, maybe?) there are Indian remains and we can get a casino in our own town?
    - PA

  • 11/7  3:16pm   To AB - Unless I completely misunderstood, the noncompliance issue discussed at the BOS meeting had nothing to do with the temporary short staffing but with the revelation that the water super, just by chance, found out that town has been upgraded from a "small" water to dept. to "medium" which requires a minimum staff of three. The town administrator questioned why formal notification had not been received. I believe the answer was "I don't know".
    Ms. Robbins then went on to give an example comparing the town of Littleton to Norfolk. She said that Littleton has 1,000 fewer customers and has a staff of eight. In checking Littleton's website, I found that there are approximately 2,070 water customers. I was not able to find Norfolk's number on the water dept. webpage, but using the 2000 stat of 2,716 houses in town less those that do not have town water, TB's estimate of 1,900 customers sounds just about right. This number is drastically different from the Ms. Robbins and Mr. Kennedy's numbers of 5,000 and 3,500 respectively. What is going on here? It's shameful that the people running this department don't have some very basic knowledge, but to then state absolutely incorrect information in order to make a point that their department is understaffed is insulting. Ms. Robbins should be embarrassed that her estimate was so far off. She is the chief assessor and should at least know how many houses are in town.
    I agree, D.P.W. is sounding like a good idea.
    - JMC

  • 11/7  2:11pm   Thank you, MH, for putting so eloquently into words the standards that you (and I) believe in.
    - AL

  • 11/7  12:48pm   PC, I think we agree that transparency and scrutiny are important aspects of democracy. Power does have a tendency to corrupt, but that is true whether it is here in town or on Beacon Hill. Even if I agreed that our elected legislators are open for business like a Nevada bordello, it would be hard to make the case that the MA Firefighting Academy, the MA Department of Food and Agriculture, the MA Commission for the Blind, the MA Board of Registration in Medicine, the MA Office of Child Care Services, the MA Board of Higher Education, the MA Dept. of Public Safety, MA Dept. of Veteran's Services, the MA Dept. of Mental Retardation, MA Dept.of Mental Health, MA National Guard, and dozens of other agencies are filled with corrupt people who only seek to benefit themselves.
    I do not consider these "special interests" - they are common interests. And that is the crux of our disagreement. You mock the state government's "beneficence." I see beneficence as our duty - as the moral principle that one should help others further their important and legitimate interests, as those persons understand them. I agree that we must ensure that the government is efficient and fair, but I disagree that removing funding is the way to do it. Life is more complex than it was when the town built the tramp house on Town Hill to house people arrested and to provide shelter for the homeless.
    PA - I see the proceeds from casino taxes as blood money. Others may feel differently.
    - MH

  • 11/6  11:16pm   I think that town should have a DPW. Time to come up to the times. We have a highway dept. superintendent who could take of it very well; all we need is more help. Put it in his hands, it will be just fine. And we don't need a study commitee, we have study commitees to study study commitees. Thank you.
    - KC

  • 11/6  11:14pm   To All, It amazes me how something as simple as responding to anonymous emails can become so incredibly convoluted and distorted. I have never participated in anything like this and I never will again. I didn't even know you didn't have to sign your name! It is an invitation for cowards and name callers to get their opinions heard. Forgive me for trying to express to other town residents my feeling on a subject that is important to my family and myself. For sharing this information I am called a blackmailer and a person who threatens her neighbors? This is repulsive at best.
    In the best interest of my neighbors, I wanted to give them some insight as to the alternatives that are out there for large parcels of land. Information that is not readily available for most people. Forgive my husband and me for doing our homework and educating ourselves as best we could on the Estate Lot Bylaw. Why shouldn't we pass on that information to or neighbors? They are all adults who can disseminate that information themselves. I take offense to using the name of my husbands employer (low blow) in this discussion when you are afraid to give your name, and I am even more ashamed at the web master for posting it. Participants in these discussions should be informed and thoughtful in their responses. Since I am beginning to feel like a punching bag rather than one of the informed parties I will no longer join in any discussions, I rather go town meetings.
    Think twice before hitting the send button!
    - JN
    [That last bit of advice is spot on, but the rest is a bit overdone for someone whose computer was the origin of two e-mails from made-up personas in support of her own cause. No, I don't append full names, but the posts are from real people sending from real e-mail accounts. Courage of a different sort. - Wm.]

  • 11/6  6:34pm   I did a little research some time ago (very little), and compared Wrentham's water dept and Norfolks. Wrentham has approximately 3800 water services with a crew of 6 workers and the super. This does not include clerical. Norfolk has approx. 1900 services and ONE worker plus the super. Norfolk also has a part time worker when needed. Wrentham has a yearly flushing program, regardless of water bans. Norfolk does not. Just a little info. for the board
    - TB

  • 11/6  6:31pm   MH - first nobody ever said anything about a profit... unattainable giving existing management.
    This system is severely broken. Charities have to show how much is spent on expenses and how much reaches the intended beneficiary - the Legislature/income tax could withstand the same scrutiny. The value received versus taxes, tithing, or extortion paid just will not add up.
    Your short list of accomplishments are not due to the Legislature's actions - probably in spite of it. The Legislature exists primarily for special interests. Your contribution (taxes) makes sure they can peddle their influence and then collect a paycheck and pension for all their hard work. Remember, it is a part-time job, and you are paying them. If you feel you are not taxed enough feel free to contribute more or just wait a month or two when Finneran and company raise the rate on their beneficience.
    Thank you sir may I have another !!
    - PC

  • 11/6  6:30pm   To MH: You bring up some interesting points. When you mentioned Nevada, I thought about an article in today's Herald about a possible expansion of Foxwoods, which means more money will be going down 95 south to Ledyard. Isn't it time we stopped the flow of gaming money to CT by building one right here in MA?
    - PA

  • 11/6  6:27pm   To JMC: In regards to your post on the state of the Water Department. I offer the following links and information. The regulations 310 CMR 22 are for the Massachusetts Drinking Water Regulations. You can search the DEP web site www.state.ma.us/dep/brp/dws/certop.htm which outlines many of the requirements for certified operators of a public water supply. Of particular note is one document entitled Contracted Massachusetts Certified Operators which states "Please be advised that approval is required by DEP before a public water system can enter into an agreement with a certified operator. A form is available for this purpose, called the PWS Certified Operator Compliance Notice." The statement made by the Water Commissioners during the meeting that the operator(s) must be employees is incorrect.
    In the regulations, 310 CMR 22.00 scroll down to page 111, and they document the staffing requirements for a public water supply.
    As much as I don't necessarily agree that the Water Commission should be completely knowledgable on every single nuance about the operation of the system, I agree that they should know how many customers the Water Department serves, but then again I think the Selectmen should also know that, give or take 100 or so. As you noted that the matter with the notice of non-compliance was odd. Here is what the issue is... taken directly from the regualtions.
    "Reporting Requirements. Except for periods of temporary absence, whenever a public water supply replaces a certified operator responsible for primary or secondary supervision under 310 CMR 22.11B(1), the public water system purveyor shall report the change to the Department within 24 hours and submit to the Department within 30 days documentation which outlines the procedures to obtain an appropriately certified operator(s). The new operator's name, certification number and duties shall be submitted to the Department once this information is known."
    Since one staff member is "on leave" and this person is the secondary operator, the position is empty, there has not been a replacement named within the required time period, thus the non-compliance. I've again watched the Town meeting when the article from the Water Department was brought up about funds, and we know what was said and what the end results were. It seems to me that objections to this warrant article are having some larger ripples than first anticipated.
    - AB

  • 11/6  3:55pm   PC, nobody enjoys paying taxes. And nobody should fool themselves by thinking the state government is expert at managing money for profit. But, that's not really what the government is there for. The government is there to provide for the common needs of the citizens of the state. Do we want only the wealthiest citizens to be able to attend good schools? Only the wealthiest children and seniors to get health care? Only the wealthiest towns to be able to protect their natural environment? Only the wealthiest towns to have good roads?
    As for states that do not have income taxes -- there are nine. Five of the nine states rank among the top ten states in sales taxes per capita. Massachusetts' sales tax burden currently ranks near the bottom. So it isn't just property taxes. One of the nine -- Nevada -- also depends heavily on revenues from casino gambling and other gaming. Two of the states -- Alaska and Wyoming -- derive extraordinary revenues from mineral wealth that is unavailable in Massachusetts.
    I know the government is an easy target these days, but much of the money we pay in income taxes is put to good, efficient, moral use. Massachusetts is not the leader in the amount of income taxes, but Massachusetts does lead the nation in other categories:
    - Massachusetts leads the nation in the number of high school graduates going on to college at 73%. Nevada -- a no income tax state -- is lowest at 40%, and the national average is 57%.
    - Massachusetts leads the nation in the percentage of classrooms with Internet access.
    - Massachusetts leads the nation in taking care of people regardless of their economic status.
    - Massachusetts has the best road safety record in North America (despite our bad reputation)
    - Massachusetts leads all states in the decline of women who smoke during pregnancy.
    - Massachusetts has the highest percentage of child care centers accredited by the National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC) in the country.
    -MH

  • 11/6  3:02pm   JO's sugestion to merge the Water Department with another town department is an excellent one. Many towns already have a consolidated Department of Public Works that includes Highway, Water, Sewer and Solid Waste. The Highway Department already oversees the Solid Waste function by running the Transfer Station. I believe this same issue was studied by the Charter Committee about 8 years ago, and not resolved. A cautionary note then was the Water Department would report to the Town Administrator and Board of Selectmen. The Committee resolved it wanted to keep an elected board of Water Commissioners. A vote of town meeting would be necessary to do what JO suggests.
    - GLB

  • 11/6  2:61pm   To JO - I agree about looking into some drastic changes for the Water Dept. After watching Monday's Selectmen's meeting with two water commissioners, it appears that no time should be wasted in finding an alternative to the system we have in place now. It was actually disgraceful that Ms. Robbins and Mr. Kennedy could not answer the simplest of questions asked - how many water customers are there? Ms. Robbins' answer, 5000. Mr. Kennedy replied 3500. What is the answer? My guess is that it is far fewer than either number.
    Mr. Kennedy remarked that he was not even aware until Monday night that the superintendent and administrative assistant were definitely retiring. Ms. Robbins stated that the commissioners had been discussing their future plans for replacement. Who is telling the truth? Ms. Robbins said she gets confused because she "wears two hats" (Water Comm. and Chief Assessor). Might it be time she hangs one of them up? Are these people really qualified to run this vital department?
    This should be #1 on the BOS's priority list. There has to be a better way. Also, the commissioners' announcement that the town is in non-compliance with D.E.P. due to inadequate staffing was rather odd. The town administrator's skepticism was understandable. I hope the BOS gets to the bottom of this and gives us an explanation at their next meeting.
    - JMC

  • 11/6  2:59pm   JO - Maybe we could sell the H2O dept.?
    - MC

  • 11/6  1:42pm   MH - Do you really think that Beacon Hill manages your money that well? Wouldn't you rather spend more of your own money the way you choose to - otherstates manage without income tax. The property tax is higher but the spending decisions are made locally - a much better way to root out waste and the numerous abuses in the current system. Sending YOUR money to Beacon Hill and then they return a small percentage is ludicrous. You manage your own household without someone else's help, don't you?
    - PC

  • 11/6  12:50pm   I was shocked to see in the election results that a majority of my fellow Norfolks voted to eliminate the state income tax (1,878 in favor of elimination and 1,733 against). That is just mind-boggling. Are people really in favor of cutting the local aid money that funds police and fire protection, nursing homes for the elderly, human services, and the roads and infrastructure? Do a majority of us really want to jeopardize our state's bond rating? Do the people who voted to eliminate the state income tax know what a bond rating is?
    Thank goodness that other communities across the state had better sense than more than half of us. The voting on Question 1 in our town has convinced me that we need more funding for our schools -- not less. Then, hopefully, the children of our town will grow up to understand math and logic better than some of the parents.
    -MH

  • 11/6  9:19am   Congratulations to all of the Norfolk residents who worked so hard to get Mitt Romney elected. It truly was a grand old day for the GOP. I'm sure that the Green Party must feel black and blue.
    - PA

  • 11/6  9:16am   I read in the Sun Chron of the passing of Art Keenan who certainly brightened our lives over the years. Art never forgot a Norfolk veteran and worked diligently to assure that no were forgotten hence he spearheaded memorial signs, researched missing Norfolk veterans. He even employed me to verify that we had a navy person die in the Coconut Grove Fire of 1942!! He will be sorely missed this Veterans Day.
    - JO

  • 11/5  10:23pm   I would like our people in Norfolk to think about merging the Water Dept with another entity (perhaps the Highway Dept ?). There could be some plusses like reduced/consolidated processing cost as well as shared facilties. What do you think?
    - JO

  • 11/5  8:51pm   I would personally like to thank the Norfolk Community League once again for the organization of the 2002 Halloween Candy Give Back Program. It was great to hear that 400 lbs. of candy was brought back in on November 1st. To all that participated in the program - we all appreciate your contribution in making this event an on-going success. A special thanks to Pam Seymour who organized this years program - great job! We all look forward to seeing you next year at this time. Finally, a best of luck and farewell to Paula Austin, who has served as president of the Norfolk Community League. Thank you for all that you have done in serving the community of Norfolk. It has not gone unnoticed. You certainly will be missed!
    - Steve Plympton, D.A.R.E. Officer, Norfolk Police Deparment

  • 11/5  6:55pm   The Norfolk Community League is gearing up for its 5th annual Valentine's Dinner Dance and Silent Auction. The event is scheduled for Saturday, February 8th, 2003 from 6:30pm to midnight at Luciano's Lake Pearl in Wrentham.
    A large part of this preparation includes the solicitation of donations to be auctioned off for charity at the event. Any individual or business interested in making a donation may contact [see the press release for contact information].
    - TS

  • 11/5  6:52pm   The Norfolk Community League (NCL) is accepting requests for disbursement. If you are a member of an organization that would benefit from a donation, [see the contact information in the press release].
    - TS

  • 11/5  3:44pm   Animal Control has MANY dogs up for adoption. Folks, it has been a horrible year for what is commonly called "dog dumping". Whatever the reasons for it, there are many dogs currently in need of homes. The larger towns in the area are having a horrible time finding solutions for the massive amounts of dogs being abandoned at their door steps. Even our own little town has started to feel the effects of this. Just last week a very young, thin dog was dumped in my driveway secured in a large cat carrier. There are 4 dogs that are in need of homes right now. Pictures will go up on the website in the next day or two. ALL of these dogs are young dogs, and it is not clear as to why they were abandoned. On the list currently is a Wheaton Terrier/lab mix (neutered male, 2- 3 yrs old), black terrier (neutered male 2 - 3 yrs old), Rottweiller (female 2 - 3 yrs old), and Mixed breed (female 1-2 yrs old). They are all vaccinated for rabies upon adoption into appropriate homes. If anyone is interested in adopting a dog to secure them a good future, please email or call the Animal Control Officer.
    - Hilary Nolan Penlington, Norfolk Animal Control // 508 528 3232 // NorfolkK9@aol.com

  • 11/5  2:38pm   I am an outsider reading about the Seekonk Street property and have a few comments...
    1. Why didn't the owners apply for the estate lot permit before they carved out two buildable lots? It seems like common sense to be sure of yourself before you back yourself into a corner. At a minimum, informal requests and interpretations could have been obtained from the Boards prior to the lot sales. Now, you are fighting the town on an issue that could have been amicably solved prior to this whole incident. Granted you would probably be down the cash on one buildable lot, but its better than where you are now paying legal fees and blackmailing your neighbors.
    2. Yes, my second comment regards blackmailing your neighbors. What neighbor would ever prefer a subdivision over a one house lot? Obviously, it is in your neighbors' best interest for you to get your estate lot approval.
    3. Thirdly, it disgusts me to think that people post fictional emails to this website in order to promote their own agendas. Shame on you, what kind of example are you setting for your children?
    I am torn on how this whole mess should proceed. I would much rather have the old farmhouse remain and have one house built on an estate lot; but, are we setting a bad precedent that the greedy and whiney get what they want if they rattle enough cages?? I know hindsight is 20/20 but in this case better leg work in advance would have solved many problems.
    - RT

  • 11/5  2:34pm   As an outside observer who is on neither the Planning Board nor the ZBA nor a friend or colleague of the Nievergelts, I must say that I'm flummoxed by this whole divisive situation. On the one hand, the Planning Board says that they intended for the Estate Lot bylaw to apply to existing lots, not new lots created after the bylaw was enacted. Was that made clear in the bylaw? Obviously not clear enough. Based on the statements of Planning Board members at Town meeting, I feel that the Planning Board has taken a stance of condescension and defensiveness. Let's be honest, this isn't the first time they've acted like this.
    On the other hand, you have the tactics the Nievergelts. They have made threats of the "stop me before I kill" variety if they aren't allowed to do what they want. They have threatened to develop a subdivision. Knowing that they cannot build a subdivision on that land (see Mrs. Nievergelt's letter), they have threatened a 40B development of high density "affordable" housing. They are now threatening to demolish a historic home. And now they've played games with one of our few public fora. This is the kind of thing we see from some of the worst outside developers -- people who do not live in town and are just our to maximize the profits from the land.
    What's going on here? Could it be that because Mr. Nievergelt is an executive with Peabody Construction he and Juli have fallen back on developer tactics out of habit? Could this have gotten the Planning Board's defenses up and made them dig in for a battle (which is, by the way, what they are supposed to be doing for the town when developers come in seeking to make Norfolk a Franklin or Medway).
    It's a quandary. I wish I could support the Nievergelts, because I think Estate Lots, while they may open up some undevelopable land, are on balance good for helping to manage the growth of the town (they are not a magic bullet). But their tactics make it difficult.
    - MH
    [I recall noting the cutoff date in the bylaw text in the warrant - Wm.]

  • 11/5  2:31pm   Why is it that we now vote at the H.Olive Day School rather than the Freeman-Centennial School?
    - HK

  • 11/4  11:45pm   Looks like've been suckered, folks! Apparently "TQ", the person who "overheard" the demolition request and started the Littlewood Farms discussion thread, is fictitious. There are indications that "TQ" may be affiliated with the owners, ie. may not have been writing for purely selfless reasons. What's more, the same appears to hold true of the initial outpouring of support that arrived, which we didn't post given their dubious origin. In other words, the entire "grass-roots campaign" appears to have been carefully orchestrated from the start to manipulate our sentiments.
    Regardless of the merits of the proposal, we've been set up. Needless to say, this reflects poorly on the perpetrators, and makes one wonder what other tricks they may have up their sleeve. We apologize for having unwittingly permitted this ruse
    - Webmaster, Norfolknet

  • 11/4  11:41pm   The school children of Norfolk donated over 400 pounds of Halloween candy during the Norfolk Community League's (NCL) Fourth Annual Halloween Candy Give Back on November 1, 2002. The candy was donated to the New Hope Shelter and Norcap Drug Rehabilitation Center to assist in their rehabilitation efforts. D.A.R.E Officer Steve Plympton discussed the program with all that attended. The raffle for a skateboard and helmet was won by Brooke S., age 10, of Norfolk.
    - TS

  • 11/4  11:38pm   Dear JN & PN, As a Norfolk resident, it boggles the mind to see such a well thought out project like yours, denied by small mindedness, you have clearly done your research. If the anonymous aggressor of earlier has anything to do with decision making in this town, then you are surely fighting a losing battle. Of course, I certainly hope that your project goes through, keeping the land undeveloped, perhaps allowing someone to buy the old farmhouse with a view to restoration and finally not dividing up the land to put another development of million dollar homes on postage stamp lots, it sure seems the most conservative thing to do!
    I would love to see your project succeed, now more than ever, if only to rub the anonymous aggressor's face in it!!!!
    - GL

  • 11/4  11:36pm   On Wednesday, November 13, Norfolk Together, the Norfolk Teacher Parent Association and the Norfolk Teachers Association are sponsoring their annual Fall Food Pantry Drive at the H. Olive Day and Freeman-Centennial Schools during the pupils' lunch period. Pupils are encouraged to bring canned foods, pasta, soap and detergent. People unable to donate during the school day are reminded that food can be dropped off at the town fire and police station from 9 a.m. to 12 noon, Saturday, November 16.
    Norfolk residents in need may contact Norfolk Together at P.O. Box 223, Norfolk, MA 02056. Contributions may be sent to the same address.
    - BW

  • 11/4  5:56pm   Dear BS, Thanks for your support and your ability to understand our dilemma. If you want to help please attend the planning board meeting at 8:00 on Thursday and if we make it through that the Zoning Board of Appeals hearing on November 20th. By all means introduce yourself to PN and me. Thanks again!
    - JN

  • 11/4  5:35pm   To "Name Withheld" - Speaking of "not taking responsibility for your own actions..." - wouldn't you say not signing your own name is not taking responsibility for your words?
    To PN and JN - I too welcome you to Norfolk. I have to admit when I first heard that your land was sold I was very sad as I was concerned that it would be developed. However, upon reading your proposal I was very pleased. It is thoughtful and you have spent a considerable amount of time considering your abutters.
    It is unfortunate that officials in power get stuck on rules, power and negative behavior. Alternatives are not always considered and officials play to "win" rather than reach a compromise resolution. I think they also forget we are their customers and should be treated as such.
    I for one would like to see the little farm house remain and the land developed as you've outlined it. For those of us who support you - what can we do? Should we attend the ZBA meeting?
    Good Luck!
    - BS

  • 11/4  4:39pm   Voting tomorrow is at the H. Olive Day School Auditorium (232 Main Street) from 7 AM to 8 PM. With the polls showing candidates across the US running neck and neck, our vote can make a difference this year.
    - DAF

  • 11/4  2:36pm   Re: where to vote tomorrow: According to a page on the Town Clerk's website:
    "The polls will be open on Tuesday, November 5th from 7:00AM until 8:00PM. All precincts vote in the H. Olive Day School Auditorium, 232 Main Street, Norfolk, MA."
    Access to the auditorium is at the rear of the school. Unless there are traffic signs to the contrary, after entering the school driveway from Main Street, slowly drive around to the right to the rear of the building and park. You will see signs saying where to enter the building. After voting, drive out the same way you came in; do not continue to drive around the school as there may be school busses on the left side of the school.
    - AN

  • 11/4  2:17pm   To PN - ditto to what MR said. It seems like a no brainer to grant it. Good Luck!
    - NS

  • 11/4  1:46pm   Just wondering where voting for tomorrow's elections will be held. I live on King St. if there are multiple locations. Also what are the hours. I'm surprised there isn't more information readily available on this! Thank you.
    - Regards, DM

  • 11/4  10:29am   PN - Welcome to Norfolk. I think your Estate Lot sounds great. You're willing to build a nice house, pay a large amount of money for taxes and have a small drain on the towns resources. For some reason, many on this board don't agree. If someone could explain the negatives to what they are proposing I would be open to listen, but if the other option is 30 more homes in the same spot, why are we giving him a hard time?
    - MR

  • 11/4  10:11am   Next Norfolk Little League General Meeting has been moved from December 1st to the 8th at 7:00 p.m. at the Norfolk Library. We still have the following positions open: Little League President, Babe Ruth President and Umpire and Chief for Babe Ruth. We also created a New Volunteer Coordinator Position which we need to fill. Please sign up to Help!!! Get Involved!! Please visit our new web site, norfolkbaseball.com.
    - PM

  • 11/4  10:06am   Dear Mr. Name Withheld,
    Perhaps you misread my essay. I stated that we purchased the Zoning Bylaws book BEFORE we closed on Little Wood Farm. We purchased the bylaws in February and closed in April. During this time we had several professionals give us their opinion on the bylaw and it was unanimous that it would be a decision for the Zoning Board of Appeals, they have the discretion to find our proposal a good use of the property. I agree that the Estate Lot Bylaw is very poorly written. However I only know this because the Planning Board had to tell me what the intent of the bylaw was, after we made our application. Property owners should not have to be told what a public document means, it should be clear and concise when it is read as to avoid such problems. I suggest that future bylaws be written impeccably and that the planning board not hold property owners/tax payers responsible for their mistakes.
    May I please suggest that you read future postings a little more carefully.
    Sincerely, Juliana Nievergelt

  • 11/4  9:52am   I would like to respond to the previous email regarding the property I own on Seekonk Street. First and foremost I find it very interesting that the individual is able to make statements that are not entirely factual and then does not have the integrity to identify themselves to the rest of the board.
    1. We did do our homework. We had two lawyers, an engineer and many friends read the Estate Bylaw prior to purchasing the property. What was concluded was that it was a very purely written bylaw but what we planned and hoped to do was at the discretion of the ZBA. In everybody's opinion it was a much better alternative than a subdivision because it kept the intergrity of the property in tact as was a developing the property "smartly". This was clearly evident when we invited all 25 of our abutters to a get together to discuss what we planned to do with the property. Overwhelmingly, no one wanted to see a subdivision go in and they were in favor of our proposal. If any of our abutters were in opposition they did not express it to us or at any of the public meetings. There were in excess of 30 people in attendance on our ZBA hearing on May 22nd with only two individuals speaking out against the proposal who happened to be two Planning Board members. A question was asked at that meeting whether or not it made any difference that the abutters supported the application. The response given to the abutter was "What about the other 4,000 households of Norfolk?" The fact that only 68 and 63 people (approximately 1.1% of the registered voters in Norfolk) even voted on the two articles that related to the Estate Bylaw and a large percentage of those people where either Town employees or member of boards in the Town indicates that the other 4,000 people really do not care or they would have been there.
    2. We have never said that our financial decisions should be a problem for the Town. One of the alternatives to what we have proposed to do is a subdivision. Whether it be a subdivision for one house or a subdivision for an additional 4 houses we would be able to yield from our land when we purchase or co-develop the vacant ten acres to the right of our property. We have not even considered the impact of development if Jane and Paul's Farm ever decides to sell their land and how many more houses we could get from our 30+ acres of land. Either way it will be more costly for the Town than what we are proposing because they will have to own and maintain a subdivision road. If we do the subdivision road for only one house it leads to potential expansion in the future. I think the majority of people would agree that more houses and more children at a cost of $7,500 a child to educate ultimately costs the Town money but if that is what the people of Norfolk want that is fine by us. Though destroying a beautiful piece of property and an old "potentially" historic house, we will make a considerable amount of money by selling house lots for $250,000+ a lot. This is not our intent nor has it ever been but this is definitely one of the alternatives we consider pursuing if we are not successful in getting an estate lot.
    3. The interpretation of the bylaw may be clear to you because since you did not identify yourself you may have been one of the authors of the Estate Bylaw. The language of the bylaw is not clear because if it was we would not be discussing this point nor would there have been two articles on the Fall Town Warrant to address this specific issue. Let us remember there have been only six applications in the past year. Of those, we are the only people who want to build and live on the estate lot. All the other applications have been made by developers with the exception of one. If one were to do a little investigation of each application it is interesting who directly has benefited or may benefit from the Estate Bylaw if approved and accepted.
    4. During the summer my wife and I were approached by a developer who was interested in purchasing a parcel of land near the Medfield border to do a comprehensive permit. Our parcel of land was identified because it is 33 acres in size and if combined with abutting land could get up to 70 acres in size. A 12 acre parcel of land on Holbrook just sold for in excess of $2.5 Million in the beginning of October. Personally, I think the piece we own is better situated and a much nicer parcel. Despite the fact that we received a fairly significant offer which caused us to consider the offer momentarily, this is not why we purchased the property. With that all being said, I did make a statement in the heat of the moment after being denied on my first application that "I had received an offer to do a 40b and if that is what the Town would like, perhaps that is what the Town should get." It might not have been the smartest thing to say and I readily admit to that but at the same time I do not think that is something the Town would want or like. I believe we have demonstrated support with our abutters and I believe they would not like us to one day be able to pick the "poison" as an alternative to develop the land.
    We are fully cognizant that it is highly unlikely that on either November 7 and if we are able to move to the November 20 hearing that we will get a fair and unbiased hearing specifically when those who did attend the Fall Town Meeting from either board voted directly opposite of the way we did. We should have realized we were fighting a fight that we could only lose from the first day we entered Town Hall to drop off our application for an Estate Lot before we even owned the property. We were told by someone in Town Hall " I do not know why you are wasting your time or money because you will never get approval." I guess that person knew from where they spoke. I now understand why Norfolk has Pebble Hill.
    - PN

  • 11/3  9:48pm   In regards to the post about the property on Seekonk Street:
    1) Should have done your homework before you bought the property. Your readily admit that "we misinterpreted the bylaw". Take responsibility for your own actions and decisions.
    2) Why make your financial decisions a problem for the Town. No one in Town told you to buy this property.
    3) I have read the Estate Bylaw and the interpretation and application on this bylaw clear. The bylaw was targeted to accommodate land owners who didn't meet frontage requirements. This bylaw is for lots pre-existing prior to September 2000. You have a newly created lot that doesn't meet the frontage requirement for an ANR lot.
    4) As for the statement "despite the fact that our abutters and the Town think differently (in support of making an "estate lot"). A serious flaw in your logic is the threat made at the public hearings that if you don't get the estate lot approval you will have a 40B development go in. This is case of picking the poison, not support.
    - Name Withheld

  • 11/3  10:16am   It has come to my attention from a neighbor that the property we own is a topic of conversation on this board. My wife and I are the owners of Littlewood Farm which we purchased on April 12, 2002. What we thought would be a relatively simple process has become rather protracted and very controversial as evidenced by being a topic of conversation on this board as well as the article in yesterday's County Gazette.
    Yes we have applied for a demolition permit for the old farm house on Seekonk Street because as it stands right now in order to build a home we have no alternative. We have been unsuccessful in getting an Estate Lot approved through the Town permitting process to date and based on how the majority of Planning Board and ZBA members voted at Fall Town Meeting it is not likely they will change their opinions despite the fact that our abutters and the Town think differently.
    To give you better perspective of our intent and what we are attempting to do, to follow is a letter that my wife has written that she hopes to read at our next meeting with the ZBA:
    I hope that the above better explaint the current status of Littlewood Farm. For those of you who are interested in learning more we would welcome any support on November 7 with the Planning Board and November 20 with the ZBA.
    - PN, owner of the house on Seekonk Street

  • 11/2  9:55am   Norfolk Together is a group of Norfolk citizens, chaired by Betty Lehan for all ten years of its existence, that relies on the generosity of other Norfolk citizens to provide the emergency funds for fuel, utility bills, and general relief for our neighbors that need it. We have a 501(3)C designation from the federal Internal Revenue Service as a charitable organization.
    - Barbara O. Ward, Public Relations, Norfolk Together

  • 11/1  4:52pm   It is my understanding that the owner of the farm on Seekonk wants to keep the old house, and build one new house for himself on the rear of the property, under the Estate Lot Bylaw. He has been denied by the Planning Board, and the Zoning Board. It was his petition which led to the Town Meeting article to eliminate the Estate Zoning Bylaw (which failed). He has enough land and frontage to put in a road if the house is removed, so I think at this point the owner is investigating his options. I for one would prefer to see the old farmhouse remain, with a driveway leading back to an estate type property with horses, barns and fields.
    If you want to find out more, you should go to the upcoming meeting at Town Hall (I believe it is the Planning Board), and you can see the direction this town is going.
    For comparative purposes, have you driven down Evans Road, off Needham Street - seems like a huge waste of asphalt, as well as new expense for the town to maintain for two houses. Wouldn't a common driveway or other solution have been better?
    - KH

  • 11/1  4:11pm   MR - I cannot give you specific historical information, but having played in the fields to the rear of the house many years ago I know that the house is very very old, and is probably one of the older homes in Norfolk. I do not quite understand the new bylaw that was passed at Town Meeting. Does that mean that the house can not be demolished or will it be demolished and a new, ugly subdivision put in? Unfortunately, Norfolk is losing its old country charm and is being destroyed by developers just trying to make a buck.
    - TQ

  • 11/1  4:09pm   There seemed to be quite a bit of commotion on route 115 in the early morning hours of Thursday, 10/31. Many of us noticed several police cars, and eventually officers with metal detectors! I haven't heard anything since... Does anyone know what happened? Blue lights were flashing... but no police car alarms..
    - MB

  • 11/1  3:52pm   MR, the answer to your question is yes. If a building 75 years old or older is deemed "preferably-preserved," then the Historical Commission works closely with the owner to consider alternatives to destroying the structure. There are many possibilities. The owner could rehabilitate or restore the building rather than demolish it. Someone could purchase the building in place and preserve, rehab, or restore it. Someone could purchase and relocate the building for preservation, rehabilitation, or restoration. Other creative solutions may be explored. If nothing else can be done, at a minimum, the delay gives the Historical Commission time to document the structure before it is lost forever.
    This kind of bylaw is in place in 84 Massachusetts cities and towns Ours is actually less stringent than it could be. The Massachusetts Historical Commission encourages communities to pursue a 12 month demolition delay period, but Norfolk's bylaw delays by no more than six months. Norfolk's bylaw only applies to structures of 75 years of age or older -- many other towns cover structures 50 years of age or older.
    -DAF

  • 11/1  11:39am   Does the Historical Commission offer suggestions for what the owner of the house should do? Are we trying to save it or move it? I may be incorrect, but is this the farm that just sold for over a million $? I agree we should save the open space and small town feel of Norfolk, but think we shouldn't hold someone up if it's not necessary. TQ - You mention that the house has "significant historical value" in your post. Could you explain further?
    - MR

  • 11/1  9:20am   TQ, thanks to the demolition delay bylaw passed at town meeting earlier this month, if the building is 75 years old or older, the Historical Commission must determine historical significance before any demolition occurs. If the building is deemed "preferably preserved," then the demolition may be delayed for up to 6 months while a solution for preservation is investigated.
    - DAF

  • 11/1  8:59am   I was in Town Hall yesterday and overheard a conversation that a demolition permit was applied for to tear down that cute little farm house on Seekonk Street. I don't understand why someone would want to tear it down. This farm house has significant historical value and should be placed on the historical register. It has been here since I was a child and long before. I hope it will be here for years to come. Does anyone know why the owner wants to tear it down??
    - TQ

  • 11/1  8:57am   To MD - As the treasurer of Norfolk Together I can assure you that every cent that is donated to Norfolk Together goes back into the community as assistance for those who need it. The only exception to that statement is that we need to cover some administrative costs such as those associated with the printing of raffle tickets. All time associated with the group is on a volunteer basis so our costs are minimal. We are a non profit organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.
    We have been providing support to the community since 1990 and anyone who finds themselves in need can apply for assistance. We anticipate with current economic conditions that there will be more need for help as many people in our community have been laid off.
    Thank you for your interest and support.
    - Barbara Snead, Treaurer, Norfolk Together

  • 10/31  11:14pm   Re: 10/31 11:11am post by MJD - The Massachusetts Democratic Party website is at: www.massdems.org Per a call to their office in Quincy today, the Norfolk Democratic Town Chairperson is Adeline Bee, 508-528-2601
    The Massachusetts Republican Party website is at: www.massgop.com According to a "select your town" box on that site, the Norfolk Republican Town Chairperson is Robert Garrity, until 2004.
    Candidates for local town government have not called themselves Democrats or Republicans (etc.), but candidates for County and State offices typically run under the banner of a political party.
    - AN

  • 10/31  11:10pm   I got the mailing from Norfolk Together, Inc. today for their raffle and it sounds like a good cause. I was just wondering if they have a website or any place I can get more information. I did an internet search and checked the "Organizations" section of this website, but didn't see anything on them. I hate to be paranoid, but I just wanted to make sure they are known around town before I send in my check. Thanks!!
    - MD

  • 10/31  11:08pm   To MJD - There may not be many O'Brien signs in town, but the voters lately tend to be pretty evenly split between the two main parties. In the 2000 presidential election, Bush/Cheney got 2199 Norfolk citizen votes and Gore/Lieberman got 2055. The Green Party's Nader/LaDuke ticket got 282 votes -- enough to have put Gore over the top in Norfolk if those votes had gone a bit more centrist.
    I think you see more Mitt signs in town because a few Mitt supporters own vacant commercial property they don't mind sticking a bunch of signs on. I guess the artwork is an improvement to the decaying metalwork and whatnot. And it does add a Halloween flavor with its broom....
    -DAF

  • 10/31  3:39pm   We use a company called Releaf. It is a landscaping company, but during the fall months they go by Releaf. Their # is 781-455-0005. They do require you to rake your leaves out to the curb, and then they'll come & pick them up with their truck. We've used them for about 3 years.
    - The other PR

  • 10/31  2:30pm   Can anyone recommend a fall cleanup service who can clean up all my leaves?
    - Thanks, PR

  • 10/31  12:20pm   This website, norfolknet.com, and the links at the left are a great source of information about the town. Another local source of information is the Attleboro Sun Chronicle. The Boston Globe carries some good articles about local issues. See: http://yourtown.boston.com/town/norfolk/ plus the links at the bottom of that page for a summary of information relating to Town statistics: Overview, Taxes, Education, Public Safety, Transportation, Employment, Spending, and Trends. Stop in to Town Hall or the library and pick up a copy of the Town Report to see who runs what in Town Government. Watch the Selectmen's meetings and other meetings on our excellent Norfolk Community TV, cable channels 8 and 22. The TV schedule is at [the NCTV page]. Or attend meetings at Town Hall. Check out the Town Hall website at virtualnorfolk.org and the meeting schedule page at [this page]. The Town is looking for volunteers for various committees. Check with the Town Administrator's office at 508-528-1408 and see the website at [here]. Consider joining some of the organizations listed at: [Organizations page]
    - AN

  • 10/31  11:11am   To JDT - I have lived here for a year and was involved in town gov in my old town. When we first moved here I went to the Town Hall and asked who the chair of the Democratic Town Committee was and they told me that they didn't think there was one. I have asked others whom I have met but I must be meeting only the politically uninvolved. Maybe it's the Democratic in that desciption, I don't see very many O'Brien signs in town.
    - MJD

  • 10/31  10:15am   In regards to the article in today's Globe West about Mr. Perron, as he was quot ed as saying "my [Perron's] legacy will live on..." Well, if anything else can be sai d that is not subject to any debate!
    - AWB

  • 10/31  10:14am   To TM - AMEN!!
    - ME

  • 10/31  8:40am   Happy Halloween!

  • 10/30  2:01pm   Here's one more on the Bill Perron affair. After reading this man's true feelings regarding the town of Norfolk and its people (VoyForums:MCI Concord), there's a lesson to be learned after the entire experience (in addition to the obvious one for those who actually voted for him). Apathy has its consequences and I'm guilty of it, too. The frightening reality is that when so few people are actively involved in town issues or town elections, you end up with this kind of person holding public office and making crucial daily decisions affecting us all.
    - TM

  • 10/29  10:54pm   It seems the Bill Perron topic was quite a hit (umm... pun(s) not intended). We reached new highs for visits to the site on Friday (353, usually 270), Saturday (262, usually 120), Sunday (194, usually 90), and Monday (447, usually 300). I expect a lot of the additional hits were page reloads and not new readers, but even so, that's a lot more attention than we usually get. Thank you!
    - Wm.

  • 10/29  10:54pm   A Christmas Craft Fair will be held on Saturday, November 16th in St. Jude's s Church Hall, 86 Main Street, Norfolk from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Many local crafters will present their crafts - ideal for Holiday Gifts. Activities will include a Kids Korner, raffles and much more. Santa will be there! - GB

  • 10/29  11:01am   I have lived in Norfolk for almost 3 years now. Is there any other good source for Norfolk news besides the Gazette? Also, how does one go about learning about our town government, who runs what, etc.? I'd like to become involved, or at least informed. Any advice appreciated. Thank you.
    - JDT

  • 10/28  11:33am   Sunday, the King Philip Regional High School Marching Band, The Pride and the Passion completed a perfect competitive season , in the Massachusetts Instrumental and Choral Conductors Association (MICCA) State Finals at Framingham, with straight superior ratings in every MICCA show. The band performed "Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 5, " to win its 16th straight MICCA gold medal, a string that began in 1987.
    The marching band season will conclude with a celebration performance of "Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 5" at 7 PM Tuesday, October 29, at Marciano Field in Brockton, which will be videotaped. The public is invited to attend at no charge.
    - BW
    [The full, un-abridged article can be read here - Wm.]

  • 10/28  11:33am   To JMC: Yes my diatribe on the water department was partially theory and some speculation, but was also based upon real life experience too. The cost of the consultant I quoted, the $125,000.00, is a real cost based upon the minimum required (with emphasis) manpower and costs required to operate a similar sized public water supply. With that info. anyone can do a quick and dirty cost benefit analysis. I can appreciate your comment about "but remember we are talking about the Town of Norfolk." That is the wild card factor in this whole thing, but that too can be managed if those in charge would seek out the knowledgeable people who can provide multiple and workable options and correct information.
    What concerns me most is the lack of planning for the future. The retirement of the present Water Superintendent is not new. My understanding is that this has been common knowledge for several months. This is not just going to go away, a long term solution must be in place, or preferably should have been in place months ago. A transition period is paramount. I can assure you that if the Town is not in compliance with their required monthly, quarterly and annual monitoring and documentation the potential fines of up to $25,000.00 per day will or should shock someone into action. But by then it will be a bit late.
    As you duly noted "This is an extremely important resource and we should have competent people protecting it. I don't think this is the case now." You are certainly correct, but this is not just the responsibility of the Water Department, the following town boards have responsibility in protecting the aquifer(s) which supply Norfolk, the Board of Selectmen, the Planning Board, the Board of Health, Conservation Commission, Building Department (as the Zoning Enforcement Officer) and Zoning Board. The fact that ARTICLE 30 on the fall Town Warrant AQUIFER PROTECTION AND INTERIM WELLHEAD PROTECTION DISTRICTS was voted down was quite troubling, but then again, I won't be surprised when those who voted this article down are the first to complain about their water.
    - AB

  • 10/28  9:21am   It appears that some people have creative ideas on how small towns can make money. [See the article] Not that I'm for changing the name of our town mind you ;-)
    - SF

  • 10/28  9:20am   Norfolk Baseball Association Open Meetings - Norfolk Baseball Association is unique when compared to other Norfolk youth sports organizations. While most sports organizations are run by elected boards and hold one meeting annually that all can attend, Norfolk Baseball is a more participatory organization. Meetings are held monthly (except August) and all are invited to attend and participate. While the overall direction and priorities of the program are set by the Board, the meet- ings are open, all can voice their opinion, and anyone who attends four meetings in a rolling calendar year can vote on all matters that come up before the membership. PLEASE JOIN US AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!
    - PC

  • 10/28  9:13am   Thanks AB for the explanation regarding the water department. In theory, what you say makes sense, but remember we are talking about the town of Norfolk. I look at it as a blessing that the water super is retiring and would hope that a speedy search is started for a replacement, or perhaps a plan to merge water with another department.
    Anything at this point would be better than what we have now. I really don't want to see this as an opportunity for the present superintendant to work even less than he is now and be paid a great deal of money. This is an extremely important resource and we should have competent people protecting it. I don't think this is the case now.
    - JMC

  • 10/28  9:08am   Did I miss something? Why would correctional officers be at the landfill? We were there mid-morning and didn't see anyone. Could you please explain? Thanks.
    - PR
    [Driving by, we saw one person holding a sign protesting the new pre-release program (around 3/23/2002) - Wm.]

  • 10/27  4:29pm   Well, I read all of the postings on the correctional officers web page. One quote from former Board of Selectperson Perron is "if anyone gets in my way I eliminate them". Chilling!!! By the way, was anyone else victimized by the correctional officers on Saturday at the landfill? I counted 8 persons out there. I thought that only 4 were supposed to be there according to the discussion at the BOS meeting.
    - ME

  • 10/27  4:26pm   Anyone who has a good working piano and is willing to sell it at a reasonable price, I would like to see it and hopefully buy it. I took piano lesssons many years ago and would very much like to begin again but can't afford the price of a new piano. If you have such a piano, please call Paul at 508-520-4003.
    - Thanks, Paul

  • 10/27  8:47am   To JMC: I appreciate your comments on the Water Department staffing situation but here is something else to consider. The need to bring on the Water Superintendent on a "consulting basis" is required to operate the Public Water Supply system that serves Norfolk as no plans seem to be apparent to replace the current Water Superintendent wth a permanent hire, outsource or hire a consultant who also has the two specific licenses required to operate the Town's system. These two licenses are a Treatment (minimum Grade 2) and Distribution (minimum Grade 2). The other problem is that if you don't have a primary and secondary operator (which is essentially two people) you are subject to enforcement by the Department of Environmental Protection. I am not affilated with the Water Department but hold a Treatment license and plan to take the exam for the Distribution license early next year. Since I know what is required to run the a water supply system, the hope that the current Water Superindent will be on a "consulting basis" is really the most cost effective solution...in the short term. However, to retain a consultant to run the system could be around $125,000.00 per year. A competative salary to bring on a new Water Superintendent could be in the $70,000 too $100,000 range. Not having been at Town meeting, but I did watch it on cable, this information on consulting costs or a new hire which is part of the big-picture should have been presented.
    As for the "plaque," my suggestion is to remove the gavel and replace it with a key. ; )
    - AB

  • 10/27  1:03am [the first 1am]   It certainly has been an interesting week for our selectmen, both past and present. I very rarely agree with Mr. McFeeley, but I must say I was quite proud of his handling of the school issue at town meeting. It's about time someone held the school committee accountable. This is what I want to hear from our elected officials, not the usual political correctness and double talk we usually get. He provided the information needed to make an informed vote. He handled the water department request for a transfer of over $300,000 with the same straight talk. Part of the reason for the transfer was additional money for salaries as the department is understaffed at the moment and will be even more so in a few months. I understand that the Water Superintendent is taking advantage of the early retirement and the water commissioners plan to bring him back on "consulting" basis. Does anyone else see a problem with this. Also the understaffing now is due to an employee on suspension. Due to the reason for the suspension, it would seem to me that the town will open itself up to a possible liability when this employee returns to work. Definitely some serious problems in this department.
    Speaking of serious problems. I haven't spoken to anyone who was surprised to hear of Mr. Perron's unfortunate situation. Perhaps the BOS will present him with another plaque. This time for his outstanding ability to put one over on the town he claims to love. The previously mentioned e-mail surfaced weeks ago and reportedly reached the BOS. But that award was given to him anyway. I thought it quite interesting in the recent news articles that mentioned how Mr. Perron was fighting for legislation for a recall of the sheriff. If I remember correctly, was he not vehemently opposed to the citizens petitions for recall of elected officials in this town. Perhaps he is smarter than he appears.
    - JMC

  • 10/26  13:06pm   I'd like to publicly pat myself on the back for my "female intuition" - I always thought there was something not quite right about Mr. Perron's deportment and ideas. In case anyone needs guidance at the polls, my female intuition says that Mitt Romney is poison too, albeit of a different kind.
    - HPK, tattooed on her arm but not on her mind

  • 10/26  12:58pm   Big article on the Perron matter on the front page of the Sun Chronicle.
    - ME

  • 10/26  12:54pm   [A]fter reading a few of the Perron posts when I returned home from work this a.m. ... I was reminded of an anonymous quote I once heard... ``Ordinarily he is insane, but when lucid he is only STUPID!'' or... GOOD RIDDANCE!!
    - PB

  • 10/25  11:46pm   Suggest that persons interested in the Perron related news spend some time looking the MCI message Board - VoyForums :MCI Concord message board Page 19 of 32 is especially interesting-written 7/21/02- Its rather rough stuff throughout the website so be prepared!! I suggest we have a festering sore.
    - JO

  • 10/25  11:39pm   As far as Billy Bob goes, nothing he does would shock me. It is pathetic that we lost Mr. Bakinowski because of him. Any chance he could be asked to come back? On the subject of our fine and upstanding former Selectman, Mr. Billy Bob ... There is an interesting posting on the MCI Concord Bulletin Board website, revealing his true colors. He readily admits the way he fooled this town into electing him. It is pretty interesting, give it a read. http://www.voy.com/10341/1/ or go to the main page http://www.voy.com/7113/5/ and go under Concord and then first set of archived messages. The submission of interest is titled "Hey Stu remember this ?" and is dated 07/21/02. Enjoy!
    - KS
    [There's some strong stuff on the MCI boards, be warned - Wm.]

  • 10/25  7:20pm   To MH: In half seriousness, he could be resident of Norfolk but may not be the type of resident that would afford him the opportunity to run for office ... if you know what I mean. In all seriousness though, can anyone being accused of a felony actually run for political office? I know that if you hold an elected position and are convicted of a felony you are obligated to vacate your seat. Does anyone know if there exists anything in the Town Charter which addresses this circumstance?
    - AWB
    10/25  9:38pm   An update to my last post....It seems that Mr. Perron is no longer a resident of Norfolk. This article in the SunChronicle says he now lives in South Boston. - AWB

  • 10/25  7:19pm   LS ... I am sure that your comment was tongue in cheek ...
    - ME

  • 10/25  4:52pm   Now that Perron is no longer in his position with the correctional officer's union, he can run for Selectman again in the Spring and resume his "honest and forthright" work for the town. As long as he isn't in jail ...
    - MH

  • 10/25  4:51pm   Like I stated previously, Mr. Perron is a Buddy Cianci in training. Maybe he can hire Buddy's lawyer and get a radio job.
    - MA

  • 10/25  4:12pm   I think Mr. Perron's true colors are now showing. I feel outraged that this town had to lose Andy Bakinowski because of Perron's vendetta. It is clear how Mr. Perron deals with people who do not agree with him.
    - ME

  • 10/25  4:11pm   Billy Bob, you've made us proud!
    - LS

  • 10/25  1:01pm   News story - [article in today's Herald News about former Selectman Bill Perron]
    - BM

  • 10/25  9:15am   If you like candles,do I have the thing for you! Partylite. Partylite is a candle company that offers candles and beautifully made crafts in a catalog fashion these items cannot be bought in stores because they are not available to the general public(unless you have or go to a partylite show).
    [C o n t i n u e d . . .]
    - RD

    Snow on Oct 23, 60K

  • 10/23  9:49am   Don't look now, but it's snowing!! Our trees are just starting to turn, but it's SNOWING! The ghosties will be really white this Halloween!
    - AR

  • 10/23  8:37am   Regarding the dog owner, don't be so kind. Worrying about his dog getting run over is the least of concerns. Someone being bitten is the issue here. I now of a child who was bitten in the face by a loose dog. My wife has been bitten while jogging, it's really ridiculous that people leave their dogs loose and in the front of the homes. If you want the dog, buy a long leash, or put up a fence and close the gate. And I do love dogs, but I don't like poor dog owners who think their dogs are soooo cute!
    - PR

  • 10/22  4:24pm   Thanks MJF. It was dark the night of the dog incident and I don't know what kind of dog it was just that I was moving AWAY from him... and fast.
    - MD

  • 10/22  3:33pm   Hi MD, Sorry to hear about the dog incident! I live in one of the new houses on Barnstable Rd (I'm not the culprit as I don't own a dog!) What kind of dog was it? I've noticed that a neighbor with a Golden Retriever leaves the dog out all day with no leash or fence but the dog seems pretty friendly. I agree with you completely though, that's definitely not responsible dog ownership especially with all the kids around here! I worry that this guy's dog is going to be run over in the street.
    Best regards, MJF

  • 10/22  2:28pm   Thanks for your support! Some additional information is available on our website.
    Bill Domineau, Norfolk Historical Commission, Chairman

  • 10/22  12:15pm   I'm writing to ask for support for the Demolition Delay Bylaw warrant article at the Town meeting. Since it is article 35, it probably will not be discussed and voted on until tomorrow (Wednesday) night. It may even go to next week if debate on other issues goes long enough.
    I hope that many of you who have lamented the decline in Norfolk's "sense of place" will come out to support this moderate step in the direction of preservation. The lively discussion here has shown me that civic engagement and social connectedness are important to many of our townsfolk. Preservation of historically significant buildings is only part of the equation, but I believe it is an important piece of the puzzle.
    What is Demolition Delay? It provides a "cooling off" period in which people have an opportunity to think hard about whether or not a building should be torn down, rehabilitated, or moved. 84 cities and towns in Massachusetts have a demolition delay bylaw
    How does it work? A property owner applies for a demolition permit from the Building Commissioner. If the building is 75 years or older, the Historical Commission quickly reviews the application to determine its historical and architectural significance.
    If the Commission determines the building is "Preferably Preserved," then the demolition is delayed for up to six months. During the waiting period, the owner, Commission, and community try to find a solution for preservation.
    There are many success stories where a better solution was found. Nevertheless, after the delay period has expired, the Building Inspector can sign the demolition permit and the demolition can proceed. A demolition delay bylaw cannot indefinitely prevent a demolition from occurring.
    Why do we need it?
    1) Land is in short supply.
    2) Modest homes are being knocked down to build higher end homes across the state.
    3) Properties listed on the National Register have no protection from demolition.
    4) As the number of teardowns increases, the overall character and charm of a town begins to disappear.
    5) Economic and social diversity is reduced when modest, affordable homes are replaced with structures costing three times as much.
    6) Any sense of neighborhood continuity and stability is lost when teardowns are a threat when speculative developers, rather than residents, control the neighborhood's destiny.
    - DAF

  • 10/22  12:12pm   I live in Cape Cod Estates and I walk almost every day. I usually head down to the new houses on the extension of Barnstable Road. However, the other night I was walking and a dog came screaming across the yard of one of the new houses and chased me down the street, baring his teeth etc. The police cruiser happened by as I was figuring out how to walk up Medway to get home without being bitten. The officer called animal control and I hoped that the new neighbor was contacted and informed of our leash law. Tonight my husband walked down to see if the dog was out and he chased him and barked etc. Any suggestions for how else to handle this? I resent having to find a new route to walk because of a dog who should be leashed anyway. Also, I am not the dog-phobic type. I have one of my own and he is ALWAYS leashed when outside.
    - MD

  • 10/21  2:43pm   Re: Water rates. I talked to the town, the info posted on the town's website is at best misleading, and possibly wrong.
    Water rates are $38.50 plus actual usage. Actual usage is priced at $3.29 per 1000 gallons if under 50,000, and $4.02 if over 50,000. The $38.50 is not a minimum charge, but is billed on top of your actual usage. So, if you used 20,000 gallons your bill would be $104.30.
    This has changed from 2001.
    - JH

  • 10/20  4:38pm   Can anyone confirm that the library addition involves the cutting down of the Maple trees? And if so how can it be stopped? I support the addition but NOT at the expense of those trees.
    - MC

  • 10/20  1:23pm   LS - We found that the fan in our forced hot air heating system made the meter spin like crazy. Thanks for the solar info.
    - HPK

  • 10/19  3:51pm   To HPK - I have been researching photovoltaic systems. I'm amazed at how much power the sun generates. For about $15K we could do without NSTAR. Not to mention the plus to the environment! I have a friend that installed a system and he does not get an electric bill! Go check out www.solarelectricpower.org. My electric bill is very high with avg. use of around 850 KWH. I cant find where I'm using all of this power! We do not have AC so I suspect its my well pump cycling on/off too frequently. Enjoy the weekend.
    -LS

  • 10/19  3:51pm   SF, with well water, we'd really be up a creek (no pun intended) if we lost power on a regular basis at my house. I hate to mention it, but Hurricane Gloria was more like 18 years ago, which makes me feel old. Regarding NStar rates: in January 2002, the company was found to be improperly charging "standard service" customers the "default" rate after those customers had moved within the service area (say, Boston to Brookline). Also, NStar rates have gone down a couple of times in the past year, according to their website. JW, maybe you saw the financial benefit of one or more of these in your electric bill? I've often wished for some solar cells on the roof, myself, but I don't know if we get enough sunshine. Any readers here have solar hot water/heat/electric?
    - HPK

  • 10/19  3:42pm   Just to make a couple of points. I moved to town over 30yrs ago as a teenager, and then the center looked like a center and there was a great sense of community. Unfortunately, when the high speed train came, our community changed to a bedroom town for Boston. I think most people in town are either too busy or just don't want to get involved in the town because they will be moving on soon. Perfect example is the gentleman that filed the lawsuit trying to stop the Senior Center, cost the the town thousands of unnecessary dollars and now he's moved. For the money spent on the lawsuit they could have had 5 or 6 new buses.
    Another thought - if you let some commerical businesses in and on Pebble Hill I would think that would bring tax revenue without the worry of children in school using that tax money. I also think it would make the center look better. ANYTHING would be an improvement. I know myself I would rather see that than more sub-divisions, treeless because there being built on all the old farmlands and open space that used to make Norfolk such a pretty town.
    To the person that thinks that these $600,000 houses aren't going up because of the economy is dead wrong. I work in that field; try $1 million and up houses going up all around without a blink of and eye. The Building business as of yet has not suffered. Try to get a carpenter to come work at your house or anyone in the trades and see how long you wait for an appointment.
    - LM

  • 10/18  9:28pm   When we moved to town 12 years ago, we lost power very frequently. Then about 10 years ago, I think it was hurricane Gloria that most of the town lost power for over a week. It was then we decided to install a generator. Since that day we have probably only lost power less than once a year and for less than 1/2 an hour, never really long enough to bother starting the generator. I guess it was good insurance, but it would be nice to use it once in a while ;-)
    - SF

  • 10/18  9:26pm   In regards to the Turtle crossing signs, the two signs have been stolen. Multiple methods of installation have been tried including welding the bolts to the posts to stop the thefts,to no avail. It seems the signs with the black turtle on them have become collectors items. In all 8 of the signs have been stolen. The signs will be replaced next spring at the time the turtles lay their eggs. The new signs will be black letters that read caution turtle crossing and not the old style. Anyone with info on the "collectors" can call the Highway dept. or just return the signs no questions asked.
    - TB

  • 10/18  6:12pm   I got my water bill recently. I don't think I get a better deal for anything else in town. I get all the water I want to use in the house. It's there when I turn on the faucet, whether or not I have electricity or heat. I don't know about anyone else out there, but I have a family of four, all adults now, and we used 27400 gal. of the wonderful liquid since our last bill. I guess I feel so great because until a few years ago we had a very old artesian well, that as I discussed here before, and our motto then was "Don't flush for everything." Now we flush at will.
    On another note, our electric bill has been considerably less this past year, has anyone else noticed a decreased bill? Did N Star have to drop the rates? Cause I think they were fleecing us before.
    - JW

  • 10/18  4:36pm   JH: from the town website: The water rates are as follows: 0 usage - minimum $38.50 - 0 to 50,000 gals. usage is $3.29/1000 gals., over 50,000 gals. usage is 4.02/1000 gals.
    - AL

  • 10/18  3:52pm   There are several possible reasons to explain the power outages in the Park Street area. Norfolk is served by Nstar electric (formerly Boston Edison). Norfolk is at the end of the Nstar distribution system, which extends out from Boston. Both Franklin and Wrentham are served by National Grid (formerly Massachusetts Electric). When there is a power outage in Norfolk, it affects relatively few people since no one lives beyond [...] who is served by Nstar. It is simple economics that Nstar would pay less attention to an outage on Park Street, versus downtown Walpole. The electric deregulation market has greatly changed the willingness to big utilities to invest in capital. Nstar is a prime example. Look what happened in Boston last summer with the outages. They are under the gun to upgrade the distribution system in Boston. I am afraid Norfolk is in a no win situation. These discussions have gone on for YEARS ... My advice is to go buy a generator.
    - GLB

  • 10/18  2:37pm   Can anyone speak to how the water bills are calculated? On the bill it says "OVER $3.29/1,000 GALS   OVER $4.02/1,000 GALS"
    I would interpret this to mean that it is $3.29 for the first 1,000 gallons, and then $4.02 for each additional $1,000 gallons, but I may be wrong.
    Either way, my bill is higher than the consumption on the bill indicates. Are there a surcharges that is not based on usage that is charged but not shown on the bill?
    In looking back through my past bills, I've been charged 2 different amounts for the exact same consumption - although I can't figure out how they came to either amount.
    - JH

  • 10/18  1:42pm   The Norfolk Lions Club presents: S p o o k y T r a i n R i d e on Saturday, October 26, 2002, at the Holmes Bus Complex, Myrtle Street, from 5:00pm - 8:00pm. Admission is $2.00. Come take a ride, if you dare! Check out the "spooks" under the tent. Appropriate for children of all ages. Proceeds to benefits Stony Brook Nature Center.
    - GB

  • 10/18  12:41pm   WJB, I am very much in favor of keeping a "rural" dimension to our town. But I doubt that a $1m home is going to appear as a "sterile, treeless subdivisions." During the growth spurts in the 80's and again in the 90's that happened all too frequently, but as I drive around town today the subdivisions appear to take greater concern for the natural contour of the land. I'm sure you can point to exceptions, but I think they are just that - exceptions.
    IMHO, the glue that is missing in Norfolk to create the true feeling of community and "town" is the lack of any place where every citizen can be drawn. More or less wooded area will not change that. (I was in Lexington center yesterday and was struck by the small town bustle and sense of community. And I would not classify Lexington as "urban.") Yes, we have soccer fields for kids and a senior center for the elderly. While I strongly support both, they are not a substitute for a town center. They address a completely different need. I no longer have small children and I'm not yet elderly. Where do I go? Sadly, Wrentham, Franklin, Medfield,... Other than to occasionally stop to pick up milk or catch the train, how do I connect to Norfolk? So my point? Let them build $600-$1m homes. They pay for their costs in the educational system without adding additional strain to town resources. Use any surplus from them to work towards making this a town and not just a collection of neighborhoods. And hold all public officials to a standard that focuses on not only responsible growth, but the making of a community.
    - TMB

  • 10/18  8:24am   I have a few comments on Selectman McFeeley's evaluation of the impact of new development. I will accept that a new $600,000 house is a wash from a school cost standpoint. Those numbers seem right. While the average home in Norfolk may not contain two elementary school children, new homes are far more likely to be occupied by young families, so the assumption of two children per new home is probably a good one. However, our budget does not consist solely of schooling cost. We fund the police department, fire department, road repair, library, etc. While these costs do not go up with every new house built, they do go up as our population increases (witness our apparent need for a larger library), so each new home should be considered to contribute to these increasing costs. Accordingly, it takes a more expensive house than $600,000 to provide the taxes necessary to cover the costs associated with providing services to the residents of that house.
    Yes, the proposed houses at Buckley & Mann are probably expensive enough to pay for themselves. I personally doubt that many more of these will be built in Norfolk in the near future, given the weakening economy. But we also should ask ourselves whether economics is the only thing that matters here. This town is changing from a semi-rural country town into a town of sterile, treeless subdivisions. Is that what we want? Let's hear your opinion!
    - WJB

  • 10/17  10:49pm   Does anyone know what has happened to the signs that alert drivers to the possibility of turtles crossing the road, as you approach Bush Pond from both ways on Lawrence Avenue? There are similar signs in other parts of town but these have been taken off the posts. I have seen a few large turtles over there and I would hate to think any of them would be accidentally crushed by unknowing drivers!
    - JQB

  • 10/17  10:45pm   Wm, point taken with regards to average home value. However the more land that stays out of the housing market and in the commercial market or becomes conservation land the better of we will be in my opinion. A golf course that breaks even would be less of a drain.( I dont play)
    - MC

  • 10/17  3:19pm   Mr. McFeeley, Im almost convinced, BUT it still sounds like what "W" called fuzzy math! I dont believe our avg home value is NEAR 600,000. What percentage of our total budget does the school take? 50%? SO - the more we build the deeper we get
    - MC
    [It's not the average home value, but the average value of new homes that influence how deep we're getting. Existing houses have already done their part, and no longer affect the trend - Wm.]

  • 10/17  12:48pm   Regarding the power outages, we experience them also. Anyone I have spoken to on the subject always comes back with a similar answer: You live in a town that keeps trees on the streets above the lines. When the tree limbs fall, power gets affected. I'm not sure if anyone else has gotten the same answer and I'm not sure how true it is. The advice of keeping track of the dates and times seems like a good idea. I just hope the resolution isn't to cut trees down next to the roads.
    - MR

  • 10/17  10:32am   I live near Main and Park and we have frequent short power outages. Rain or Shine. It takes days before I reset the clocks sometimes.
    You just get fed up with it, because the power may go out at anytime. I like the previous posters idea and I will keep an eye out and start to document the outages so that maybe it can be fixed.
    - PR

  • 10/17  10:31am   [Re: "full buildout", posted here with permission]
    I thought a little bit before I used that word, because it does require an explanation. [...]

    What I really meant was a more 'mature' town. Full buildout means optimum use of all land. This includes residential, commercial, business, state owned. A plot of land that has a house on it returns more money to the town than an empty plot of land. We are getting close to the point in Norfolk where the school costs can be balanced by the residential taxes. That is, we are getting close to the point where we can afford to have a residence without it being a burden on our tax rolls because of the increase in school costs.

    Let me give you an example. Right now the school cost is about $6,300 per elementary student. KP and Tri County is a bit higher. About 1/3 is covered by the state. Therefore, the net cost to the town is $4,200 per student. In reality it is a bit higher because things like teachers health insurance and building insurance is in the town budget and not the school budget. But this is the way the accounting is done. A family of 4 could possibly have two children in the elementary school. Let use this as the cost average since it is equally likely that the children would also be preschool or KP age. The preschool children would balance the KP children. If that family is paying $8,400 in taxes, the school cost is covered.

    That means if they live in a $600,000 house, it's a wash. We're close to that now. The developer who wants to rezone Buckley-Mann for residential wants to put in 25 house at $800K to $1 million each. I say welcome to Norfolk.

    C o n t i n u e d . . .

  • 10/17  10:28am   Mr. McFeeley, I appreciate your detailed explanation. However, tax rates are only one side of the equation. The other equally important component is what is received for those tax dollars. For instance, of the towns mentioned that have similar rates what % of homes have town water? town sewer? What is their investment per student? Dollar per Senior (in deference to all the other exchanges here)? Animal Officer? Volunteer vs full-time Fire? # of police and age of equipment for both? On a more esoteric level, how about condition of roads? (No, I won't bother to mention town centers....)
    I think the frustration many feel is they don't know where their money goes. Norfolk doesn't appear to be forward thinking and the most visible areas don't inspire a sense of town pride. Individuals want to feel like their town is the envy of others for many different reasons - school system, community, appearance, etc. But it is hard to judge on anything other than "looks" and on that level the common town areas don't usually hold up to comparison. Maybe we do on all those other services, but how does one find out? Does the town keep any statistics?
    - TMB
    [Never mind Pebble Hill, as soon as the new library constructions starts, we'll be the only quaint New England town without a single mature tree on our town common - looking at the blueprints in the library, all four of the large maples will be removed - Wm.]

  • 10/17  10:12am   If we spend about $4-5000 per pupil and every new house averages 2 children, and contributes an average of $5000 dollars annually, isnt Jack McFeeley's theory for full buildout a formula for greater debt?
    - MC

  • 10/16  5:17pm   When Selectman McFeeley responds to DAF's inquiry, I would also appreciate it if he would also clearly define what he means by the term "a full buildout of the town," a rather ominous choice of words. If one resides in a town that apparently has little or no checks, controls, or even planning regarding residential growth, who will be deciding what this "full buildout" is and what previously established criteria will be used?
    - TEM
    [A more elaborate response to the question of "full buildout" is in the process of being formatted for posting. I'll try to have something either late late tonight, or tomorrow evening - Wm.]

  • 10/16  1:14pm   Selectman McFeeley: in your helpful 10/10 post on Prop 2.5 you said: "The answer is that a full buildout of the town is necessary." Could you elaborate on that? [...] I haven't run the numbers, but I'm under the impression that adding more residences will not do much to lessen the tax burden of individual homeowners in Norfolk. As we add more homes, we add more need for services (schools, water, etc.). At best, it is a wash. And in the wash, we lose our small-town aesthetics, open spaces, and sense of community.
    I'd also like to call the attention of our seniors to the relatively new property tax relief program called the "property tax circuit breaker." Effective Jan. 1, 2001, according to Massachusetts Law Chapter 27, section 80-81 of the acts of 1999, Massachusetts senior citizens are eligible for a tax credit that limits how much a person over 65 has to pay in local property taxes, as an owner or a renter. You pay your full property tax bill to the town, but then you get a refundable credit off your state income tax. "Refundable" credit means even if you owe no state income taxes, you still get a refund check back from the state.
    - DAF

  • 10/16  1:10pm   An Introduction to Windows computer class will be offered starting 10/23. It's 4 classes (1-hr each) every Wed. @ 3PM at the Norfolk Senior Center. Beginners welcome; $25 fee. To register see Norma or call 508-528-0875.
    - JO

  • 10/16  1:07pm   Can anyone out there provide a lead on a good source for seasoned and split firewood? Not looking to spend and arm and a leg, here ... well, perhaps it may take that.
    - TK

  • 10/16  1:06pm   To ME: I was scratching my head, too! I guess it's a wash if people from two different pumps split the 2 1/2 cents?
    - MC
    [I can see not fining the station if the extra money they make on one pump they lose on the other, but I certainly hope they had to repair/calibrate the pumps! - Wm.]

  • 10/16  9:41am   To prove that Seniors are not approaching extinction I urge a major effort by Seniors at the King Philip High School on Oct.22, 2002 to support Article 8 {replace the 1986 bus}. Vote YES
    There are over 800 Seniors in Norfolk. They should be able to make their wishes known. Let's have a major turnout - It can be done! Call the Senior Center for a ride if needed - ask for Norma. There is no reason we cannot prevail. Lets put all else aside that evening and join your fellow Seniors. Let's do it!!! Seniors are not dormant!!!!!
    - JO

  • 10/16  9:40am   To NS - I live on Park Street also and have been dealing with the same thing. I've practically given up on resetting all my clocks every time...
    - MD

  • 10/16  9:24am   Re: 10/14 9:08pm, power outages on Park Street - We had a similar situation in the Everett/Rt 115 area, except that the outages typically occurred in the rain. Thanks to the sharp eyes of a neighbor, who saw a flash between two high-voltage wires and notified Edison, the failure mode was traced and the problem was fixed. The location of the flash was the midpoint of a long run between two poles, one on each side of Rt. 115. On one pole, the cross-bar and insulators were in a horizontal configuration. On the other pole, the insulators were in a vertical configuration right on the pole. The wires drooped a lot due to the long run and evidently because they were not as tight as they could have been.
    Perhaps it was because the rain dripped off at the midpoint of the catenary curve, coupled with the high (12.5 KV) voltage, and the transition from horizontal to vertical support, the midpoint was where the short occurred, blowing a fuse on another pole with explosive force and a very loud bang.
    The problem was fixed when Edison linemen tightened the wires so they didn't droop as much, and apparently that increased the distance between wires, reduced the wire swaying, and solved the problem.
    Suggestion: Look for the high voltage wires that feed the transformers in your area. Those wires, on the top of the electric poles, are on large insulators, much larger than those used by the low voltage lines that feed homes directly. Look for any place where the high voltage wires are close together, sway a lot in the wind, or could come in contact with tree branches during a windstorm, and be sure to tell Edison if you see any flashes between those wires, or if you see any tree branches touching those wires, during windstorms. Keep a record of power outages and durations on your calendar so your complaints to Edison will have more facts. Notify the Selectmen if the problems continue, and they may call Edison in again to explain what action Edison is taking.
    - RH

    River in Autumn, 93K

  • 10/15  5:50pm   Here's a snapshot I took of the Charles River by Baltimore St. this morning, right before my camera ran down its batteries. I guess I should have taken more pictures, and charged it more often :-)
    - Wm.

  • 10/15  3:07pm   Here's an October In Norfolk story, apropos of nothing: we moved to Norfolk in October 1999, and I decorated the front steps of our home with a pyramid of miniature pumpkins. The following day, some of the pumpkins had disappeared. "Huh," I thought to myself,"I haven't lived here 10 minutes and they're taking my pumpkins. This didn't happen when I lived in the city." The day after that, the rest of the pumpkins had vanished. I was about to get really irritated, but when I walked around the corner of the house, I found one of the pumpkins with claw marks on it - apparently, the raccoons had been helping themselves to my seasonal decorations! Since then, I've used plastic pumpkins and nobody has bothered them, human or animal.
    - HPK

  • 10/14  9:08pm   We live near the Wrentham side of Park Street and have had 3 power outages in the last week. The power seems to go out at the slightest windstorm. Most of the street seems to lose it. The New development near us never does. (underground wires). Its not a big deal but could be come freezing temps. On Saturday is was out for almost 2 hours. Never had this problem living in last house.
    - NS

  • 10/14  2:03pm   I recently read an article in the Sun Chronicle about a meeting that the Board of Selectmen had with the town official who is theSealer of Weights. The article stated that the town official at one time inspected the gas pumps at a gas station and found one pump to be over by 5 cents/gallon and the other pump under by 5 cents/gallon. The Sealer let it go because it was a "wash" (?). Did I read this correctly? Was it a mis-quote? Did this happen a long time ago ? The Selectmen reappointd him so maybe I misunderstood???
    - ME

  • 10/14  2:02pm   Live on Venus? There is an interesting article in the Houston Chronicle describing University of Texas research that suggests that there may be living organisms in the upper atmosphere of Venus. There is no definite proof, but all available circumstantial evidence points to thermophile microbes that obtain sustenance from the atmosphere and energy from the Sun's ultraviolet radiation.
    - Wm.
    [10/14  9:27pm   When I just checked, the article seems to have disappeared off their web server. Either they expire content nightly, or their server is down - Wm.]

  • 10/12  11:47pm   We also used Stumpy's and were extremely happy with their work. Checked into other places, Stumpy's was reasonable and very willing to work with us. We also had a few large trees over our house and our kids thought for sure the trees would end up hitting the house. We were very impressed with their work. Also provided excellent clean-up.
    - PR

  • 10/11  2:33pm   To MB: Stumpy's Tree Removal is very professional and has done excellent work for me - Stumpys Tree Service 30 Main St, Ashland, MA 01721 (508) 881-8784.
    Utmost in professionalism and good at precision work, they took down a large tree right next to the house and I didn't cringe once!
    - PK

  • 10/11  2:33pm   To MB: There is a tree removal service here in Norfolk: Tripp Landscape Services: (508)-528-4016. They took down some large pines for us last year and did a good job.
    - CR

  • 10/11  8:24am   I am having a yard sale on Saturday, Oct 12th from 9:00 to 3:00. After almost 40 years in one house we are going to a small home and there are many things that must be sold. Furniture, household items, some new items, pictures, all sorts of goodies. Please come: 5 Spring Street, Norfolk,MA
    - JJL
    [10/12 11:48am   The yard sale has been postponed to Sunday due to the rain - Wm.]

  • 10/10  10:13pm   On Saturday, October 19, 2002, the Norfolk Lions Club will conduct a roadblock to raise funds for the Diabetes Foundation and other Lions Charities. Lions Club members will collect donations at the intesections of Main St./Route 115 and Route 115/Route 1-A.
    - GB
    [Read the
    full press release here - Wm.]

  • 10/10  9:36pm   The Norfolk Cultural Council is accepting applications until Oct. 15 for support of community cultural projects and PASS funding, a ticket subsidy program for school-age children, as a result of a grant from the Massachusetts Cultural Council.
    Applications and detailed guidelines are available at the Office of the Selectmen, Town Hall. They are also available on-line at http://www.massculturalcouncil.org.
    - SB
    [Please refer to the press release for complete information - Wm.]
    [Since the deadline is now quite near, this is repeat of the 9/30 post - Wm.]

  • 10/10  9:32pm   MB - we used Tree Tech of Foxboro two years ago, to remove some massive old pine trees from our front yard. Their site is www.treetechinc.com, and we found their prices quite reasonable at the time.
    On the turkey front: we had a large male turkey eating birdseed in our front yard last fall, and were surprised because there isn't a lot of open land where we are (downtown). Haven't seen him since, but we did have a pheasant for a few days last winter. Um, had him as a guest, not as dinner.
    - HPK

  • 10/10  9:31pm   Is anyone in town interested in forming a support group for those of us who have found ourselves suddenly unemployed? The current economy and job market are making this a daunting challenge. I was told at the DET in Norwood that they would provide space if we couldn't find anything available in Norfolk. Networking is the way to go. Perhaps we can help each other get through this.
    - Jobless in Norfolk

  • 10/10  9:24pm   To Wm: You are exactly right in your explanation to LAM. An increase in assessment does not mean an increase in taxes. The town is required by state law to keep a full and fair cash value assessment of each property in town and must update this listing at least every three years. So if the value of your property goes up, the town's assessment must go up accordingly. Taxes do not go up as a result of this revaluation. If property values go up by 13.5% as LAM notes, the tax rate will go down by 13.5 % to keep the taxes nearly constant. In Norfolk, assessments have gone up every three years (or less) and the tax rate has gone down nearly every year. However, as I've noted in a prior response [post of 5/23 3:42pm], the total taxes collected have only increased an average of 2.5% over the last seven years.
    When Proposition 2 1/2 (now Massachusetts General Law Chapter 59 Section 21C) was passed by referendum in 1980 the authors wanted to limit the tax increases imposed on the homeowner to an average of 2 1/2% per year. To close some of the loopholes they also wanted to prevent the cities and towns from increasing the taxes just by increasing the value of everyone's house. They wanted to prevent the town from doubling taxes just by doubling property values. So the 2 1/2% limit was placed on the tax levy. That is, the town can't raise the total taxes that they collect (the tax levy) from homeowners by more than 2 1/2% per year. Since the tax levy is calculated by multiplying the property valuation by the tax rate, it's easy to see that if the valuation goes up by 13.5% after the levy is set the tax rate must go down by 13.5% .
    Having said that I also emphasize that the 2 1/2% cap is on the total taxes that the town collects. It is not a cap on the individual homeowner. So some houses could have their taxes increase by 5% if the value of their house goes up greater than the average in the community. But this would have to be offset by those homeowners whose taxes would stay even or go down.
    LAM also notes that "Maybe if we let some businesses in town, perhaps up on Pebble hill they could add to the tax base and take some of the tax burden off the home owners. " Unfortunately, the answer is not that simple. The answer is that a full buildout of the town is necessary. I have personally done a detailed analysis of the tax base vs. the residential/commercial mixture and concluded that more businesses (albeit desirable) will not soften the taxes for the homeowners. For example, Norfolk's tax rate is currently $14.32 per thousand (dollars of valuation) while Dover's rate is $9.80 and Mansfield's rate is $15.45. Do we conclude from this data that Dover has more commercial property than Norfolk while Mansfield has less? This, of course is not the case. Some other rates are Foxborough ($14.15), Wrentham ($14.64), Medfield ($14.91), Medway ($15.79), Millis ($15.14), and Plainville ($17.23). All of these towns have a much larger commercial tax base than Norfolk. Plainville, which has the least on this list, has a commercial valuation that is three times Norfolk! It hasn't helped their tax rate.
    There are thirty five towns within a twenty mile radius of Norfolk. Norfolk's tax rate is not at they top but actually is close to the median tax rate on this list. Only five on this list have lower commercial valuation than Norfolk. These are Blackstone, Dover, Mendon, Millville, and Sherborn. Three of the five also have lower tax rates than us and the remaining two are only slightly higher. There is absolutely no correlation between the tax rate and the degree of commercialization. We do, however, have a lot of State owned land in town from which we collect a fraction of the value ($132K this year). The tax relief in Norfolk has to come from Beacon Hill not Pebble Hill.
    - Jack McFeeley [Board of Selectmen]

  • 10/10  12:45pm   Hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good tree removal service? I have some trees in my yard that I want to get taken down.
    - MB

  • 10/10  12:06pm   To Wm Could you please explain how evulations go up and this causes the tax rate to go down? I understand the overides but I don't understand how taxes decrease.
    - LAM
    [My understanding is not specific enough for a more in-depth explanation than what I already wrote, however, we found this writeup in Hanover that seems to do a good job (click on Hanover above to read it) - Wm.]

  • 10/10  8:53am   To TEM and RH, Thank you for sharing your Turkey stories. I think I've seen more around Norfolk and the surrounding towns this year then ever before. It might have something to do with the fact that a lot of their space is being taken up. Same as the coyotes or coy dogs are having a big party every night on King Street and the surrounding area. You can hear them howling to each other.
    Tues. evening around 5:00 myself and 2 other cars had a Turkey encounter. There were 3 Turkeys crossing the street, 1 male and 2 females. The male Turkey decided we were a threat, those big things on 4 wheels, and started to come after the cars. It took much shooing and honking of horns before he decided to cross the road with his girls. The young girls in the one of the cars were laughing so hard and it was quite comical. He was a very large male and as TEM said don't they know Thanksgiving is just around the corner. I think they do that's why they stay close to the houses. NO hunting allowed. Maybe old Ben Franklin was right about wanting to make them our national bird because they are smart, elusive but yet not obviously afraid to stand up to anything a lot bigger then themselves.
    - LM

  • 10/10  8:52am   ``Pebble Hill'' I love it. I think from now on it will always be "Pebble Hill" to me. Thanks for the chuckle.
    - JW

  • 10/10  8:49am   Mark your calendars! The Scholastic Book Fair is coming to the Norfolk Public Schools in early November. This year's theme is Reading Roundup: Lasso a Great Book and will be held in the school libraries. The fair will be at the H. Olive Day School November 4-8 for grades Pre-K - 2 and at the Freeman-Centennial Schools November 4-12 for grades 3-6. Watch the backpacks for more information.
    The teacher wish lists are an important part of the book fair. The wish lists are a great opportunity to add to your child's classroom library.
    The TPA is looking for volunteers to work the fair. If you can help out for an hour or more, please contact Kathy Ryan at (508) 520-3623 for H.O.D. or Kim Armitage at (508) 528-4352 for Freeman-Centennial.
    - LD

  • 10/9  12:19pm   To RH: From your photo it appears the same five turkeys paraded through my yard last week. Amazing how much ground they cover as we are located on the other side of Norfolk from you (near Jane & Paul's Farm). I wasn't certain whether they were turkeys or not as they seemed so dark, but I understand there's quite a variety of breeds in a slew of different colors and markings.
    - TEM

  • 10/9  10:25am   I agree that a 13.5% increase in evaluations is ridiculous. Again it will target people on fixed incomes who have lived here for years. When does it all stop. Maybe if we let some businesses in town, perhaps up on Pebble hill they could add to the tax base and take some of the tax burden off the home owners.
    What is being done with pebble hill anyway? I was rather embrassed when I was showing a friend of mine the town and we came to the center. It looked horrible. I quess I have gotten used to ignoring the ugly site as I drive by daily but, when showing my friend I realized or it was brought to mind just how ugly it is and just how very long it's been that way. It used to be such a pretty center. That was one of the things that attracted my family to the town. How did we allow this?
    - LAM
    [It was explained to me that evaluations are required by law to accurately reflect the actual market values. With the current real estate market, that means up and up. However, Proposition 2 1/2 limits the amount of taxes that the town can collect without an override, so as assessments go up, the tax rate should be going down. Tax overrides that are passed by vote are added to the monies normally collected, however. At least that is my understanding; perhaps someone with a better understanding could correct me. - Wm.]

  • 10/9  10:21am   The next Grange Pancake Breakfast will be held in ten days, on Oct 19. The new hours are 8 - 10:30 am. There are more details on the Calendar.

  • 10/9  10:12am   A gang of five wild turkeys invaded a yard on Everett Street today, stayed a few hours, explored the whole yard, and cleaned up birdseed spilled from the feeders. They were apparently fairly tame, not scared by a loud horn from a passing car as they gathered in the driveway. I wonder if they know that Thanksgiving is only about seven weeks away?
    - RH

  • 10/8  12:49pm   [This post was published by mistake, and was removed - Wm.]

  • 10/8  10:33am   In regards to the recent posts, I grew up in the 60's and recall this statement "it'll be a great day when schools have all the money they need and the Pentagon has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber." This applies to the general discusion, I just don't know where. I'm not sure if the complaints and discord about funding certain things in Town is a growing discontent or people are just picking on easy targets. I hope that people start getting involved and attend Town meeting, have a say in how their tax dollars are being spent.
    And now my rant, I saw the 2003 tax assessments and was shocked at the increase in valuations. I can see a 5 to 7 percent increase, seeing that Norfolk is a hot market, but a 13.5% increase in one year (the change in valuation is $50,340.00) above the 2002 assessment is outrageous.
    "Yes, I can use a calculator and I know that number do lie."
    - AB

  • 10/7  11:44pm   Re: 10/7 7:34pm, ``Having moved here from the Mid-West ...''
    I've spent some time in the Mid-West, most recently Naperville, Illinois (about 30 miles from Chicago). They have a Municipal Senior Center and a Dial-A-Bus for Seniors. Their Senior Center serves hot meals to people over the age of 55 five days a week under a subsidized program; their senior center is open from 8:30 AM to 3:30 PM, and they have many programs available, and trips for Seniors. Their center is under the Park District, which District levies a tax of about $200 for the average homeowner for this and many other Park District activities, including golf courses and ball fields.
    I can't speak for other areas in the Mid-West, since I am currently familiar with only this one, though I've lived in another part of Illinois some time ago.
    Municipally-supported Senior Centers are the norm in Massachusetts. Councils on Aging are noted in state law here (Ch 40. Sec 8B, Mass General Laws)
    - AN

  • 10/7  11:10pm   Interesting concept, BHW. Do the school children also raise monies and pay their school mortgage?
    I think it's sad that our culture no longer supports community. In other countries, multiple generations live together and take care of one another. I suppose we consider our way of life progress. It's a small wonder everyone's on Prozac and depressed.
    - BS

  • 10/7  7:40pm   Thank you for the comments SG, I agree with you whole-heartedly. Come on out to town meeting on Oct 22 and vote for the Senior Bus. The old bus has broken down recently and we certainly wouldn't want our Seniors in danger as we wouldn't want our school children to ride on unsafe buses either.
    - JJL

  • 10/7  7:34pm   Having moved here from the Mid-West, I found it amazing that here the Senior Centers are paid for by taxpayers monies. There they build their own Centers and pay off the mortgage by fund raisers conducted by the seniors themselves. They don't ask the community to support them.
    - BHW

  • 10/7  10:26am   Ditto to LAM comment on 9/26 ... I can't believe I live in a community where people are lacking respect and consideration and community mindedness towards ALL its members. If we limit the Seniors to activities between 9 and 5 Monday - Friday, shouldn't we limit all activities? No weekend events at schools, playing fields and other town wide events? Why are we discriminating against the Seniors? I am appalled at some of the selfish comments I have read. There has been an enormous amount of funding that has benefited this town for all age groups. Funding should be allowed for the Seniors and their bus!!
    - SG

  • 10/4  9:20pm   4th Annual NCL Halloween Candy Give Back - Norfolk Community League (NCL) will sponsor the Fourth Annual Halloween Candy Give Back on November 1, 2002. This event, which is geared towards school aged children, will take place at the Freeman Centennial School Lobby on Boardman Street in Norfolk. It takes place between 4:00 and 5:30. Bring half of your Halloween candy to benefit the New Hope Shelter and Norcap Drug Rehabilitation Center. Last year the children donated over 300 pounds of candy!
    D.A.R.E Officer Steve Plympton will be present to discuss the program with all that attend. There will also be a raffle for participants attending.
    Please contact Pam S. at (508)520-3743 with questions.
    - TS

  • 10/4  11:28am   Saturday, October 5, there is a Homecoming Football Game vs Foxboro at King Philip at 1pm. The King Philip High School Sports Schedules are here.
    Saturday, October 5, there is also a King Philip Classic USSBA Marching Band Show at King Philip at 6PM. The KP Music Calendar is here.
    - AN

  • 10/3  1:25am  
    TOWN OF NORFOLK, MASSACHUSETTS
    HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY

    Saturday, October 5, 2002
    9 AM to 1 PM
    Highway Department Garage, 33 Medway Branch
    Drive Through Service: You never leave your car!
    Norfolk Residents ONLY Proof of Residency Required (Driver's License)
    Cost: None
    For more information, call the Highway Department, 528-4990
    What to Bring (in sealed, labeled containers)
    Unneeded household hazardous waste in sealed containers (Use original containers when possible)
    Paint (Oil paint only)
    Stain, thinners, and paint strippers
    Solvents and Varnishes
    Adhesives, Glues, Resins
    Waste Fuels (Kerosene, Gasoline)
    Engine Degreaser, Brake Fluid
    Transmission Fluid
    Poisons, Insecticides, Weed Killers
    Wood Preservatives
    Hobby Supplies, Artist's Supplies
    Photo Chemicals, Chemistry Sets
    Cleaners, Spot Removers
    Swimming Pool Chemicals
    Car Batteries, Dry Cell Batteries
    Aerosol Cans
    Pesticides
    NiCad Batteries
    Hearing Aid (Button) Cells
    Anti Freeze
    Motor Oil

    What NOT To Bring
    Compressed Gas Cylinders
    Ammunition, Fireworks, Explosives
    Prescription Medications/Syringes
    Infectious & Biological Waste
    Radioactive Waste/Smoke Detectors
    Asbestos
    Fire Extinguishers
    Latex Paint - Dry it out with kitty litter and throw it out with the trash

    To Ensure Safety, Please:
    Tighten caps and lids leaving materials in their original labeled containers
    Pack containers in sturdy upright boxes and pad with newspaper
    Sort and pack separately: Paint, pesticides, and household chemicals
    NEVER MIX CHEMICALS!!
    Pack your vehicle and go directly to the Highway Department Garage at 33 Medway Branch
    NEVER SMOKE cigarettes, etc., while handling hazardous materials.

    DO NOT PLACE HAZARDOUS WASTE IN A GARBAGE BAG!

    - BH

  • 10/3  1:04am   October 12 is the last day to register for Fall Town Meeting, which will be held on October 22 at the high school. The meeting warrant is available on-line.
    - Wm.

  • 10/1  11:16am   This is in reference to the item posted Sept. 19 at 3:48 p.m. by Wm [the Webmaster], regarding self-cleaning windows.
    They are not available just in Europe. They are and have been available in the U.S. (since June 2001). Pilkington North America makes self-cleaning glass in the U.S. There are a number of window makers who offer it in New England. Try Stergis Windows ( www.stergis.com) in Walpole, Mass., and even Rivco, based in NH ( www.rivcoinc.com). There are others by looking at www.activglass.com.
    - MD

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